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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
01 Apr 2008 01:50 |
Here you go.
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bradtx
Pearland, TX,
USA
Posts: 647
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Daytona 955i (04->)
01 Apr 2008 04:21 |
Imprssive, Steve. Is that corrected or raw data?
Brad
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,379
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Enthusiast
01 Apr 2008 10:03 |
Have you got the before graph Steve?
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Garry Peterson
Sth National Park,
Australia
Posts: 82
Daytona 955i (99-01)
01 Apr 2008 11:25 |
[edited]:
The data is corrected to STD..--5 is just the level of how Dynojet software "smooths" out the undulations in the plotted graph
Is it possible to get these motors up to what we've come to expect these days of the Jap 100cc 4's...around 160 rwhp STD stock on DJ's and when lightly modded are up to mid 170's
would be good to see before dyno run to see differences if possible
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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01 Apr 2008 11:47 |
I think Brad was asking was it SAE or DIN corrected rather than the raw output.
Wonder ow long it will last before it grenades...are you going to take it to the track Steve?
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
02 Apr 2008 04:32 |
Std 1050 on the same Dyno.
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grenade? Maybe it just needs a few little friends to fix it!
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Garry Peterson
Sth National Park,
Australia
Posts: 82
Daytona 955i (99-01)
02 Apr 2008 10:49 |
I 've heard of a 1050 in Germany that puts out 176rwhp....only trouble its only talk.....
those H beams look nice
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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02 Apr 2008 11:37 |
so its got new rods as well then? Starts to become a whole new engine really then? How much did it cost JOOI approx of course?
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
02 Apr 2008 11:56 |
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Precision forged 4340 EN24 aircraft chrome moly quality steel.
2-Piece forging for increased strength.
Multi-stage heat treated processes, X-rayed, sonic tested, magnafluxed, shot peened.
Very nice.
Not cheap either, limited production runs never are........
They should go well with the new size pistons for the bigbore kit and a set of Wayne’s special grind big bangers.
Get your fat wallet out Tony.........
G-Lab are saying you can have 170ps with a full house kit, that's a big balls motor revving to 11'500rpm. I haven't seen any torque numbers though?
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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02 Apr 2008 13:40 |
I would guess you can add crank and pistons (and liners?) to that bill then? for 170ps. So you end up with Triumph cases and gearbox and some other bits and pieces....
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
02 Apr 2008 21:22 |
Bigballs power motors shopping list. (Ongoing development in Australia)
Bigger pistons and bore the OEM steel liner to 1103cc. (Not fitted in any of the above dyno results and not officially tested yet)
Rods.
Because you really need them.
Custom cams and cam wheels.
STD cams are quite lacking and restrictive.
Headers.
OEM are again restrictive.
Portwork, head gasket and custom airbox.
Make the motor flow like the wind
TuneBoy.
Without that, the ability to map the ECU would be near impossible rendering most of the above useless.
Clutch springs, a slipper clutch is also now on the market.
Most of all, the cash and ability to either do it yourself or pay someone to do it for you.
The rest of the motor is up the task, years of turbo use would have shown a weak link in the drivetrain by now, the 1050 is no different to the rest of the 02 triple motors in that department.
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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03 Apr 2008 09:45 |
so the crank is up to it without modifications?
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Manny Fagnet
Poland,sorry Reading,
United Kingdom
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
03 Apr 2008 09:55 |
Hi Steve, to clarify, did the first motor mentioned have std or aftermarket rods, what cams were used, and any pointers as to the airbox mods you mention?
Many thanks MF
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
10 Apr 2008 14:17 |
OK here is the plan; both TuneBoy and RaceComp have put in some serious R&D and come up with a kit for the new 1103cc Speed Triple and Sprint ST motor.
Custom forged pistons, h-beam chrome molly rods, ported head and throttle bodies (exchange or your own head ported), custom cams/cam wheels (big bang option), headers, custom airbox and a TuneBoy tune to go with all of the above.
A conservative 150RWBHP is the goal with loads of torque rather than high BHP. This is a very achievable goal as the early tests have shown numbers close to that with just our 1050 unit.
Who would like the opportunity to buy a kit like that?
We are still in the development stage of this kit, once we are happy with the reliability and performance of our test engines some of the performance parts will be offered out.
This kit will not be cheap, but it will be the only high performance bigbore kit that’s on the market for both Speed Triple and Sprint 1050 motors.
Turbo and supercharger engine components like Pistons, rods and cams will also be available in limited numbers.
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
12 Apr 2008 04:03 |
This is the sound of a bigbang Triumph triple motor.
http://www.t595.net/media.....&download=1
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 tim seyffert
llandrindod wells,
United Kingdom
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
12 Apr 2008 12:10 |
cant open link mate have to take you word for it
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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12 Apr 2008 12:30 |
sounds more like a Ducati/Aprilla than a triple.....
What pipe is on it?
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
12 Apr 2008 13:34 |
Try again Tim, it's free to air now...
Tony that's the sound of a bigbanger triple. Thinking of making a few cans for the bigbang 1103 motor, a meggy is a must, If we can get the sound of an old MV Agusta on full song that would do for me. The dyno room will be full then!!!!
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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12 Apr 2008 13:52 |
bigbanger as per firing order or just cubes? I'm guessing firing order...
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
12 Apr 2008 14:31 |
No mate bigbang firing order............ Bigbore kit with bigbanger cams is the goal.....
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Garry Peterson
Sth National Park,
Australia
Posts: 82
Daytona 955i (99-01)
12 Apr 2008 21:51 |
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Steve, how much do you intend to sell the rods and pistons for ?...just wondering as recently I bought a set of Carrillo H beams and custom low compression pistons from JE for my home made 955 turbo ...just wondering as it was an expensive outlay..my Carrillo's were off the shelf...not sure if thats the case with the 1050 rods? if so will they will be custom? which means more money again.
I got JE to coat the skirts but not the crowns.. have you given any thought to this ?...
ps I'm also still not sure if this is all an April fools joke too ?
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Rick Simons
Oregon, USA,
USA
Posts: 27
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Daytona 955i (04->)
12 Apr 2008 22:53 |
I sure hope it's not a joke! A cruel one if it is! I'd like to see the prices on the components too, Steve. Will you be selling them individually or only as a kit?
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Rick Simons
Oregon, USA,
USA
Posts: 27
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Daytona 955i (04->)
12 Apr 2008 23:20 |
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Rick Simons
Oregon, USA,
USA
Posts: 27
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Daytona 955i (04->)
12 Apr 2008 23:20 |
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
Premier Member
Speed Triple (05->)
13 Apr 2008 00:11 |
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Gary, Carrillo don’t officially make a 1050 rod, the 1050 is totally different to your rod.
These are custom made to our spec as you know.
Pistons:
They will be the same as OEM for now but bigger while we test every thing, don't forget it's still a steel liner in the 1050. Maybe a Nikasil liner with a coated piston option later.
Cost:
Not sure yet, like any tune up parts they are not cheap. Fancy doing some more cam wheels?
Rick, Keep you posted on individual parts cost, still putting it all together yet, this is just a tease of what will be available soon.
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Rick Simons
Oregon, USA,
USA
Posts: 27
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Daytona 955i (04->)
15 Apr 2008 16:58 |
Even if I can't afford the rest of the sweet goodies you've tempted us with (probably can't for a while), I'd be interested in the cam wheels, unless the stock ones are soft enough to be slotted using anything else than an illegal nuclear device. Can anyone share knowledge of this?
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Philip Cortright
Cross Plains, WI,
USA
Posts: 11
Daytona T595 (97-98)
15 Apr 2008 23:06 |
Falicon adjustable cam sprockets for Triumphs $54.00
http://www.faliconcranks.com/sprockets.html
Philip
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Rick Simons
Oregon, USA,
USA
Posts: 27
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Daytona 955i (04->)
16 Apr 2008 04:29 |
Thanks, Philip!
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
16 Apr 2008 10:05 |
Be careful, it says all Triumph??? I know they make cam wheels for the 97/01 motors. Not sure about the 02/08 range of 955 or 1050?
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Philip Cortright
Cross Plains, WI,
USA
Posts: 11
Daytona T595 (97-98)
16 Apr 2008 19:00 |
Basically what is the difference in the ST @ 125HP and the Speed Triple @ 133hp? Is it mapping or cams or what? What about the idea of putting cams in the ST from a 02 Daytona (143hp version). Curious minds want to know.
Philip
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