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Pump 19
Chessington,
United Kingdom
Posts: 4,438
Premier Member
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
29 May 2007 08:31 |
[edited]:
In the near future while I service the speed triple, Im going to replace the fuel couplings, both the female that screw into the pump plate and the male on the hoses.
The current plastic female ones dont seal when you disconnect, so if you dont siphon out the tank you cover the bike in fuel.
I looked in the shop on this site but there doesnt seem to be any place to purchase them via the site, and on the Colder Products web site http://www.colder.com/asp_main/default.asp who I believe are the suppliers I cant find them.
Does anyone know the product code for the Colder Products couplings, or is there anywhere else that can supply me with metal couplings that seal when disconnected?
*Edit*
A UK firm would be good if possible because after doing some reading up the couplings I found on www.rideteamtriumph.com and McMaster wont be any good as they have a non UK thread type?
So Im not sure about the Colder ones now either.
*double edit*
Why the f*ck triumph didnt just fit proper ones in the first place...
Cheers
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clogger
Gloucester,
United Kingdom
Posts: 220
Premier Member
Sprint ST (02-04)
29 May 2007 09:15 |
you need....
http://www.colder.com/asp_main/techspec/lcts.asp
section titled - Bodies: Pipe Thread
LCD10004BSPT 1/4BSPT VALVED CPC COUPLING BODY OR
LCD10006BSPT 3/8BSPT VALVED CPC COUPLING BODY
they usually have them in stock, but can be a touch on the expensive side.
or try...cheaper
http://195.102.23.60/cel/LoginCustomer.aspx
browse products >> with images
quick connect couplings
legris all fluids quick acting couplers - chrome plated brass
sub cat - series 9L05 COUPLINGS
part no.
LE-9L055613 1/4"
LE-9L055617 3/8"
not sure what size you need so covered both.
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Pump 19
Chessington,
United Kingdom
Posts: 4,438
Premier Member
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
29 May 2007 09:21 |
Cheers clogger 
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clogger
Gloucester,
United Kingdom
Posts: 220
Premier Member
Sprint ST (02-04)
29 May 2007 09:34 |
no probs, spent many a happy hour scouring t`internet to find some for the sprint after the usual leaks and breaks..... both co`s also do all the other couplings required for a full set replacement if needed.
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Michael Parker
London,
United Kingdom
Posts: 9
Enthusiast
15 Jun 2007 16:02 |
Fuel couplings in the UK
Try http://www.tom-parker.co.uk[/color]
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dave madeley
fareham,
United Kingdom
Posts: 113
Sprint ST (02-04)
17 Jun 2007 11:02 |
PUMP 19;
mine seal really well, are you sure you haven't just damaged the O-rings? it does say in the manual to replace them every time though none of us ever do
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Pump 19
Chessington,
United Kingdom
Posts: 4,438
Premier Member
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
26 Jul 2007 18:40 |
[edited]:
Dave, if you disconnect the tank a few times, the plastic female couplings will leak when you disconnect them sooner or later. The seal is internal to the female coupling.
They do not leak when they are connected back up to the male connector, but they dont seal like they should when you remove the male.
If you did change just the O ring it could be very bad,
From Mike Parker who is the UK distributor:
We are the UK distributors for Colder Products® http://www.colder.com and supply the couplings to Triumph for use in their pressure tested assemblies.
These are NOT standard couplings, they have a special hose barb, designed for the hose that Triumph uses, and TWO FKM seals.
If the external O-ring only is replaced, there is the potential for the fuel to swell the internal O ring, and then an internal spring will pop out the valve.
Which can spray fuel over a hot engine.
Very very bad.
Ill replace the whole things tank side and fuel pipe side with new metal couplings that I know seal properly and fuck off the crap plastic triumph oem ones.
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Frank Jones
NY,
USA
Posts: 2,206
Premier Member
Sprint RS (02-05)
26 Jul 2007 21:47 |
I can vouch fer the RideTeamTriumph ones , easy to fit, work like a charm.and are compatible wiv the already supplied Triumph metal female connectors.........so effectively you are left with two 'spare" connectors, from team triumph, supplied in the kit.......
surely with the abysmal state of the dollar........are they not good value in't UK??????
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Pump 19
Chessington,
United Kingdom
Posts: 4,438
Premier Member
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
26 Jul 2007 23:34 |
The genuine triumph part, is £50. And according to Jack Lilley its that much because it comes with the fuel hose.
And you need two, so thats £100 outlay.
Or I can buy them from Parkers (who supply triumph) for around £40 for the lot, all in price including postage.
Bit of a no brainer really...
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Bas Kruit
Renesse, Zeeland,
Netherlands
Posts: 19
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
01 May 2008 17:25 |
Where to get those pesky couplings
spent a lot of time to find a place to get the couplings.
Finally found them at http://quickcouplings.net/ 
Ordered for complete replacement of all the Barbie parts , tank threaded part and the elbows, for less then $50 including COD delivery.
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Kevin Williams
kent,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8
Tiger (01-06)
06 May 2008 11:56 |
found them at www.tom-parker.co.uk. part number cLCD100040V, the man on the phone said they supply triumph with the plastic ones!!!!!
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Kevin Williams
kent,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8
Tiger (01-06)
06 May 2008 11:58 |
sorry forgot to mention they said they are 1/4BSPT which they supply to triumph
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Blue
Melb,
Australia
Posts: 401
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
06 May 2008 13:20 |
Bas:
Ordered for complete replacement of all the Barbie parts , tank threaded part and the elbows, for less then $50 including COD delivery. |
hay Bas... I tried to get them for the site earlier in April. Spoke to some of their staff as well. I'm pretty sure the ones that you ordered don't have the Viton seals in them. They come with normal seals which aren't the ones you need. The Viton fittings are on special order from them and take about a few weeks from the supplier. Incase you haven't recieved them yet..... please check with them again.
but hopefully they got some stock this month when you ordered and sent you the right ones.
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Bas Kruit
Renesse, Zeeland,
Netherlands
Posts: 19
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
07 May 2008 23:52 |
[edited]: Quickcouplings.net
Thx for the heads-up on the seals.
Forgot to post again, but they only do overseas with creditcards, and I don't have one, so wrong seals are not an issue for these.
For the tom parker site I've the same problem, no cc 
Sourced them through ebay now and hope I get them soon.
Trouble might be that the ones I will get now also might have the wrong seals. The males aren't hard to fix, but dunno if it is possible to fix the female's. As far as I remember when I pulled the broken ones, the seal is on the valve in the coupling, bit hard to get at.....
Hope the whole mess can be sorted quick, no other transport atm to get stuff. My trusty box doesn't want to run either and the dealer is a bit slow to come and get it.
Glad I can use a bicycle to go to work!
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Blue
Melb,
Australia
Posts: 401
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
08 May 2008 12:47 |
BAS... I just replaced the seals in the female couplings last week with help from King-Key 's instructions. It is possible but you need to be patient.
But if you found them on e-bay... they MIGHT be Triumph specific ones and already have the Viton seals in them.
Regarding Credit-cards.... you should get yourself one of those pre-paid credit cards like BOPO in Australia. They are great because you can only spend how much ever YOU put in there in the first place... so no such thing as a DEBT.
Life is a pain in the arse without credit cards when it comes to overseas or internet purchases. Money-orders and Cheques take ages to clear.
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Bas Kruit
Renesse, Zeeland,
Netherlands
Posts: 19
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
08 May 2008 15:25 |
Thx Blue 
The ones I get are advertised as Triumph/Duc replacements, so the seals should be ok. Is it easy to check when I get them, or are they just black and rubbery?
Dealer also got back on an email after about a week, only can order the barbie parts.
Don't know if we can get a pre-payed CC here.
For on-line payments we have IDEAL with the major banks here in the Netherlands. It is almost as fast as handing over the money, so no delays at all. Beauty is that with my bank you can opt for authorization with sms on your mobile with a code to clear the payment. Bit difficult to hack into 
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Blue
Melb,
Australia
Posts: 401
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
08 May 2008 15:40 |
Its hard to tell the difference between the seals as it depends on the manufacturer. The main difference is the weight. The Viton ones are much heavier.
Some Viton seals have a little white dot on them which set them apart. But it depends on the manufacturer as the ones I bought were just " black and rubbery". No white dots. Salesman assured me they were Viton and that they feel heavier..... problem was I couldn't feel the difference. My fingers weren't that sensitive 
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Bas Kruit
Renesse, Zeeland,
Netherlands
Posts: 19
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
09 May 2008 04:05 |
Oh well, will see when I get them. Send through USPS, should be about a week. If they are the wrong ones will I get wet feet?
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Blue
Melb,
Australia
Posts: 401
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
09 May 2008 07:03 |
maybe not straight away but dont worry, your left foot will stay dry.
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Kevin Williams
kent,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8
Tiger (01-06)
10 May 2008 17:18 |
just to let people know, www.tom-parker.co.uk 01772 251405 delivered me a pair of female(tank) couplings in chrome plated brass for £12.00 each +VAT & postage within 24hrs regestered mail, very nice they are to!they do both parts in metal. Another word of warning, I contacted triumph at hinckley to make sure that I had the right thread size (1/4BSPT) & their tech person informed me that the female threads on the tank plate are tapered! consequently the brass couplings sit 2-3mm higher than their plastic counterparts, but with a couple of turns of ptfe tape seal just fine.
If the plastic couplings screw in deeper makes you wonder how much they are stressed & is that why they are so fragile?
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Riggsy
Coventry,
United Kingdom
Posts: 15,514
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (02)
10 May 2008 18:11 |
The female threads on the plate are NOT tapered on my bike???? 
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Frank Jones
NY,
USA
Posts: 2,206
Premier Member
Sprint RS (02-05)
10 May 2008 19:09 |
Maybe thats why the Yank sites only sell the tapered fittings........................???
Which seem to work really well...............
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Bas Kruit
Renesse, Zeeland,
Netherlands
Posts: 19
Premier Member
Daytona T595 (97-98)
16 May 2008 02:09 |
[edited]: Crap, wee bit to big
Short update;
got the couplings, female went in without a hitch, males are a headache. Couplings I got through fleabay are for 955 after rereading the offer. Thought it would be ok if you look for the parts in the micro fices. Seems they changed the diameter off the fuel hoses on 955 compared with the 595.
I can almost put the hose into the male connecter instead of over it. Seems I'll have to get other diam hose and figure out a way to get bigger diam ring that goes over the banjo bolt (part no. T1240748) on the fuel rail. Need to fix it this way as I already destroyed the male plastic barbie parts
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Godsbrother
Lincolnshire,
United Kingdom
Posts: 34
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
08 Jun 2008 12:24 |
I'm 'thinking' of changing mine even though they are currently ok I did have to change the seals last time the tank was off.
I have one question to anyone who has changed the male parts on the fuel pipe.
What did you use to secure the pipe to the fitting? Std screw type hose clamps or something else?
cheers
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Cerberus
Connecticut,
USA
Posts: 5,230
Premier Member
Enthusiast
08 Jun 2008 13:34 |
they came with a hose clamp which is made for the job.
not a screw type, a crimp-till-it-catches-the-lip type.
the clamp is made in specific sizes and that clamp can only work for that size.
..if that makes sense for ya
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