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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
Spain
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Daytona 955i (04->)
10 Nov 2004 21:04 |
¡Hola!
So, here are the details of the ALL NEW Spanish Pyrenees RAID 2005. In an attempt to create a fresh look and experience for riders who've done the previous Catalunya RAIDs, I've worked out a totally new and even more exciting weekend than ever before. 
We've moved it to mid-May for better weather  . The Spanish bit will be from 13th-16th. Very capable Simon Carter will be bringing the British contingent down on a great route through France to the hotel in Spain (Catalunya). And a NEW FEATURE for 2005, which will put a smile on weary bums, is that you have the choice of a lovely ferry back to blighty (or buy a gel seat).
It's gonna be a bit dearer than previous years without being expensive, with a 2-day stay in a luxury Parador just 10kms from Andorra (handy for shopping  ). It features a fabulous route on Saturday with a longer version for die-hard Raiders. While on Sunday, with blood alcohol levels still near the legal limit, we ride to Logroño, capital of La Rioja, and spend the night doing a tapas and Rioja wine crawl in one of the best tapas streets in Spain. Luckily, with a latish start on Monday, there's still time for another exhilarating run to the ferry in Santander (or back through France).
You may need to book early as places are limited at the hotel. This one's going to be hard to top. Can't wait to see the T595s down here again.  (No fallers please!)
And if you are still eager to read more, find the December 2004s nicely written Torque article for the event and how to book in the next message.
¡Hasta pronto!
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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
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10 Nov 2004 21:09 |
[edited]: Spanish Pyrenees RAID according to Torque
The offical version slightly edited and abridged to fit in this message.
SPANISH PYRENEES RAID
13 – 15 May
Building on from the success of the Catalunya Raids, this Raid will explore the motorcycling Mecca of the Spanish Pyrenees. Simon Brampton, RAT Pack Leader of Quality Bike in Barcelona, is once again the driving force behind this event and we promise you an outstanding and memorable weekend in Spain.
This Raid will combine excellent riding with superb accommodation and food. All of the accommodation used during the Raid is based in Paradores. If you have never stayed in a Parador you will be amazed! Also new for this year, is a choice of two or three night options on the Raid. This is to account for those who wish to ride to Spain and those who prefer to take the ferry.
We will be based on Friday and Saturday evening at the historic Parador in La Seu D’Urgell, located 10kms from Andorra on the Spanish side. This restored monastery, located in the old quarter, is situated next to the cathedral and comes fully equipped with the facilities that you would expect on a RAT Raid.
The ride will leave at 9am on Saturday morning and venture high into the Pyrenees. Our destination is the capital of the Aran region, Vielha. This beautiful area, famous for having its own language and culture, combines magnificent riding with awe-inspiring scenery. The day will include a lunch stop, and we will return to our Parador with time to relax before our dinner and prize giving ceremony.
On Sunday we depart from La Seu D’Urgell to Logroño, the capital of La Rioja. Tracing the N240, a very famous and popular biking route, we will stop for lunch along the way near Huesca. The mileage will be close to 500km, and you can expect a day of unbelievable riding, especially around the Yesa reservoir. On arrival at our hotel in Logroño, we will descend into the town to join the locals on a lively ‘tapas crawl’. Expect a late night! Logroño is only 250kms away from the ferry ports, so it’s an easy Monday ride for those sailing home.
The two-night option on this raid costs £130 per person. This covers Friday and Saturday night in a shared room at La Seu D’Urgell, breakfast on Saturday and Sunday, lunch on Saturday, dinner on Saturday evening, entrance to all prize draws, the route books and the event souvenir. The three-night option costs £165 per person and in addition to everything on the two night option, includes shared accommodation in Logroño on Sunday night. Please state which option you require at time of booking.
Numbers strictly limits this trip and early booking is strongly advised. Please send you cheques, payable to RAT, to Simon Carter at Hinckley.
For further information about any aspect of this Raid please email simon.carter@triumph.co.uk or
Simon Brampton at simonbrampton@yahoo.co.uk or through the t595 website
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Fret.
South.,
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10 Nov 2004 21:45 |
¿Perdón? It's muy costoso. ¿Es eso un hotel de 5 estrellas?
Cor that hurt, thinking of that Thpanith.
So that is 130 quid per day for two people? But you pay PER ROOM on the continent, so someone will be making money.
Room will be about 50 quid at the most, including breakfast. Evening meal less than 30 quid for two, lunch about 20-30 quid. And what happens if you don't want lunch or dinner? This is what I mean by expensive. The costs of these trips always puts me off for this reason.
Sorry if I sound like an old grouse and a scrooge, but that is the way I see it.
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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
Spain
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Daytona 955i (04->)
10 Nov 2004 21:56 |
No.
It's 130 quid per person for 2 days including all meals. Sounds good to me. Hotel is 4 star.
¡No seas tan tacaño hombre!
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Fret.
South.,
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10 Nov 2004 22:14 |
No se Tacano. Hay muchas anos desde hablo Espanol. Estudio en escuela 1976/77
Sorry dude. I know it is only me as I am not well off. I really wanna go as I have ridden the alps and driven the Pyrenees this year. Jealous of all the bikes I saw as well.
Have to see.
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stooz
lower midlands,
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11 Nov 2004 08:26 |
At the risk of putting everyone else of coming... I'm in 
The Yesa lake run alone is worth the trip. Im putting the final touches to my video of this area today, so hopefully upload into the media vault later...
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Dog
in the kennel,
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11 Nov 2004 09:55 |
I've managed to cancel at the last moment for both the previous years.... but with this amount of forward warning *surely* I'll be able to make it. It's in the Diary.
Cant wait... S200z I cant get my knee down at all - so you just know that you wont be able to avoid the tempation when you see me circling every roundabout at least 8 times...
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stooz
lower midlands,
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11 Nov 2004 10:05 |
You'd better bloody turn up this time!!
Im fed up having a shared room and ferry cabin all to myself... oh hang on a minute...
SInce falling off last time, I couldn't 'knee down' until last month, then I went to silverstone, and I can do left knee as well now..
Must be the new pilot power tyres that.. AAAAArgggghhhhh.
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Back Burner
M3 J3,
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
11 Nov 2004 10:08 |
Its the 'WIDE LOAD' sign that grounds first .....
whoops, gonna get bollocked for hi-jacking again .... 
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 X-Man
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11 Nov 2004 16:11 |
poo, only got a Ducati road bike...
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Fret.
South.,
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Tiger 1050 (07->)
11 Nov 2004 19:45 |
Knee down??? Easy on a track. Can even do it on the Trophy.
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
12 Nov 2004 08:13 |
Tony I'm sure you could still come along. All you need is a good, reliable bike.
Oh, wait, you've got a Ducati .....
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X-Man
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13 Nov 2004 17:50 |
Nah then Kev lad, dont thee be so bluddy cheeky else i'll 'ave to cum darn to darby and box thar tabs.
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Speedy
Frozen Bollocks,
United Kingdom
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24 Nov 2004 16:58 |
can i come please ... jazz are u going m8?
speedy
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Back Burner
M3 J3,
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24 Nov 2004 17:02 |
[edited]:
thought we had lost you Dave m8 !
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Speedy
Frozen Bollocks,
United Kingdom
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24 Nov 2004 17:23 |
rumours of my demise are premature ..... its true i am alive and well and living in thailand ..... actually thats not quite true but i have just come back from two weeks R&R,
Speedy
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Ade
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24 Nov 2004 17:25 |
WElcome back mate.
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Jazz
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25 Nov 2004 19:44 |
Speedy - indeed welcome home, RU back in the thames valley neighbourhood? perhaps get a beer somewhere local - or you going on Saturday 11th Paddington bash?
PS Pyrenees - would love to go but scheduled to be working in NZ & Aus round then - tough, innit...
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Speedy
Frozen Bollocks,
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25 Nov 2004 19:59 |
hiya Jazz, yup back in Berks and plan to be there on the 11th as its not a school night.
As for OZ/NZ in May ..... it will be cold and wet m8 .... whereas in Spain it will be pleasantly warm and sunny with a triple howling away beneath me
Speedy
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Jazz
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25 Nov 2004 22:28 |
good point, well made
still going south, tho...
see ya on the 11th
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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26 Nov 2004 21:00 |
OK, how about a roll call - anyone else going for the 3 nighter and the poof's option of the long ferry back ?
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Paul T
Bristol,
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27 Nov 2004 14:05 |
I'm up for the three nighter. Ferry back will depend on cost, but I don't really fancy doing France in a day.........again.
I've got a mate that lives near Saints, south of La Rochelle, so stopping off there for a night may be an option. Make it a bloody long weekend though.
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Ollie
Bristol,
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27 Nov 2004 15:53 |
I'm coming
Probably do long ferry back but then again might do France.
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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28 Nov 2004 15:02 |
I'm going but I haven't decided how I'm coming back
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stooz
lower midlands,
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28 Nov 2004 15:19 |
[edited]:
poofs option for me too. fancy the beer with the boys in the bar and a lie in...
what's your plan kev?
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Paul T
Bristol,
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28 Nov 2004 18:58 |
You can't afford to spend all that time on a boat with a casino stooz 
I suppose one of us is going to have to suss out the ferry options.
I'll mail Simon C, and see what he has planned.
I love riding through France, but doing it in a mad dash is a little tiring, and always seems like a wasted opportunity.
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stooz
lower midlands,
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29 Nov 2004 11:40 |
[edited]:
pault:
I'll mail Simon C, and see what he has planned. |
cheers paul. Feedback what the plan re: UK ferries is, because I think we can pick up some bargains booking early.
Im assuming portsmouth to le havre on the way out
and
santander - portsmouth return.
PS the spain ferry is a 18 hour, 1 nighter now. the bilbao is a three day-er.
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stooz
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29 Nov 2004 12:10 |
Videos
not very exicting, and bad quality but Ive uploaded my tank cam video from a trip in the pamplona regions last year.
SHould give you a good impression of the weather, continuous bends, low traffic, and opportunity for constant knee down, as you can see me performing
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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29 Nov 2004 12:19 |
[edited]:
Stooz
I've just had a look and I can only find
portsmounth - bilbao or plymouth - santander
I looked at this lot
http://www.cheap4ferries.com/index.asp
got a return deal for £350. Cabin both ways.
santander to plymouth is also monday and thursday only
P.S. Portsmouth - bilbao return £338 (cabins again)
(Wed night arrive Fri am)
leave monday pm arrive tuesday night
Prices are for one having a cabin all to himself
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stooz
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29 Nov 2004 12:42 |
I always get plymouth/portsmouth mixed up!
Spoke to brittany ferries;
return only from santander
£97 for a four berth, £140 for a bike
so thats £164.25 each sharing a four berth.
The ferry leaves 16:30 monday. the ride ends in lograno sunday night, and its an easy blat monday morning to santander.
If we gang together on bookings, I reckon we could sway a group discount too.
in comparison, the french ride back from lograno is 700 miles and will cost £90 in petrol, then there's tolls and even a B&B and a le havre ferry, so all in its no cheaper than the spanish ferry. Calculate in 1/4 tyre wear and mileage devaluation and I reckon its more costly.
is everyone planning to have the 3 night option to include the hotel in lograno?
Ive only paid for the 2 so far..
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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29 Nov 2004 13:06 |
[edited]:
stooz
how about you get the cabin and we all bunk in with you
P.S. Return is £165 (bike) + 194 ( cabin ).
I'm now thinking about doing the ferry both ways.
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stooz
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29 Nov 2004 13:57 |
Blizzard,
you mean get the 11th may sailing out (wednesday) and take 2 days to get to andorra by the friday night?
sounds good - less french blatting, and more spanish quality roads. Im tempted.. don't book the ferry without speaking to me, I might join you..
Its also £134 for a 2 berth cabin - £67 each, a big difference!
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Back Burner
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29 Nov 2004 14:33 |
Stooz
great vid m8 - how many cars ! Had me worried about a third of the way in, I took the wrong line round a sharp right-hander. Lucky u were driving ....
PS. Get a single berth cabin and smuggle him in !
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Blizzard
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29 Nov 2004 14:39 |
I looked at the french ferry cost (£80 + accom one way) plus the trip down through France and thought that I would be knackered by the time I got there and wouldn't enjoy the weekend.
Overall the cost would be much less. You would have to get to Plymouth by 4pm on the Wed though and you would have an extra day in spain (arrive 11am Thursday)
The 4 berth would work out at £50 is we can find 2 more which is £215
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stooz
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29 Nov 2004 14:53 |
extra day in spain? are you suggesting the french trip to andorra is to be attempted on friday only?
I would have thought the trip was going to be broken into an overnight stay anyway..
any other offers to start up a 4 berth? (saying that, two is cozy enough.. a four can get quiet cramped!)
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X-Man
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29 Nov 2004 15:13 |
err, can hust say that one or two of the riders in that video need some serious tuition in road positioning.
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Blizzard
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29 Nov 2004 15:25 |
stooz:
extra day in spain? are you suggesting the french trip to andorra is to be attempted on friday only? |
The santander ferry arrives Thursday am which gives you until Friday night to get to the hotel (18hour crossing)
stooz:
any other offers to start up a 4 berth? (saying that, two is cozy enough.. a four can get quiet cramped!) |
maybe you could put 3 in a 4 berth as it works out nearly the same as sharing a 2 berth
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stooz
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29 Nov 2004 15:40 |
the standard option is riding though france to andorra, is that planned for a single day? if so the two days from santander is more appealing..
tony:
, can hust say that one or two of the riders in that video need some serious tuition in road positioning |
including me  this was filmed nearly two years ago. Ive had tuition since that trip, and its safe to say all of us were recent converts to two wheels with little riding skill. I'd like to think Ive improved since then - I can't comment on the others!
which bit was the worst for you? happy to take advice.
In a pathetic attempt at defence : Its easy to get complacent in spain with so little traffic.. 
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Blizzard
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29 Nov 2004 15:56 |
[edited]:
2004 was :
Simon Carter, the UK RAT head honcho is leading the group down from the UK. Max 15 I think. You have to be staunch and brave and have a very shiny Triumph. Ferry leaves on Wednesday 24th night. Go through France on the Thursday staying overnight(Cahors), and then Friday you've got all day to cross into Spain and reach the hotel. |
two days to cover approximately 400 miles allows for several detours or even re-runs of the really good bits and you don't have any French roundabouts to fall off on 
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X-Man
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29 Nov 2004 16:10 |
Well, where to start... 
Um, going into right handers from the kerb and left handers from the centre line . Drifting over the line on left handers(even when you think you can see what is coming) ( you nearly twatted a car by being too close to the line at one point). Missing apexes all over the place because you started out wrong ( and dont start me off by saying that apexes dont need to be made on the road as I have the scars to prove that they do) and thus getting into the drifting off line too much and having to brake whilst in the corner (yes i did notice )
Really basic stuff but much of which is still in evidence even with riders of long standing. BTW I'm not on about racing lines either just good road positioning. i am sure you have improved much since then.
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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29 Nov 2004 16:16 |
I don't think I'd want to do the poof's ferry both ways - the ride through France is well worth doing at least one way. I think you might even enjoy the weekend's riding more after a couple of days solid riding - the pain in your neck and knees starts to ease off a bit. The roads are nice, the toll motorways give you a chance to go for your all out top speed record (mine was 160 indicated last time on M/way, 140 on a normal road) and it's a good larf too.
And, apart from the sleeping bit, the ferry is a bit boring once you've lost all your money in the Casino ....
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stooz
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29 Nov 2004 16:39 |
decisions decisions...
either way I think its best I don't let tony see any more of my videos ! 
only kidding - looking back, it was pretty shocking riding!!  
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Back Burner
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29 Nov 2004 16:41 |
[edited]: Kev ...
dunno if the hoary old chestnut about average speed between Péage is really true nowadays, but 10 years back my lady borrowed a 520BMW to take her parents to Italy. On the way back south of gay Paree she was pulled out of the peage queue to a nondescript little shed and after her ticket thing had been minutely examined, told she had averaged 130 mph (in French klicks) between the previous peage and this one. Luckily she spoke fluent French and after an hour or so - including phoning the local BMW dealers, she convinced them that the car would not do that speed .... god knows why they had to make a phone call, if it was based on timings on the ticket - either the previous booth had a fault or their arithmetic was suspect.
PS. Stooz, as i said earlier, there was only one scary bit ! But then I could never understand the 'disappearing point' trick of a coner !
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stooz
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29 Nov 2004 16:53 |
on paege, most of the time bikes have a sub gate to get past without paying, so no ticket with a time stamp, on the ones last year, there wasn't a time on them anyway..
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Back Burner
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29 Nov 2004 16:59 |
fuck, all that typing ....................
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Ollie
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29 Nov 2004 18:35 |
Oi Blizz....
Steady now matey....At least I stayed onboard at Silverstone 
I know you overtook me in the dry session.................
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Dog
in the kennel,
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29 Nov 2004 19:48 |
Long ride over and short (aka Ferry Beer Evening) on return for me please. Sounds like heaven.....
S200z - ur lines were rubbish mate... you were on the wrong side of the road most of the time
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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29 Nov 2004 23:23 |
[edited]:
Pay no attention to Bigdog, he won't be fucking turning up anyway (I agree about the ferry, though)
Some one told me that the French Peege operators would rather listen to George Bush's inauguration speech than co-operate with the gendarmes to catch speeders and any suggestion that they should would see all motorways and ferry ports blockaded instantly. Could be wrong though, I've heard the speeding peeage stories too ....
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Dog
in the kennel,
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29 Nov 2004 23:35 |
that's it Kev... you bitch... just you wait.... I've lent my 'excuses for not turning up bible' (2005 edition) to Speedtrip so will DEFFO be there this year... honest...
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Dog
in the kennel,
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29 Nov 2004 23:35 |
erm...
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Dog
in the kennel,
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29 Nov 2004 23:35 |
well...
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Dog
in the kennel,
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29 Nov 2004 23:36 |
fingers crossed... 
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Blizzard
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30 Nov 2004 10:17 |
Ollie
If you come along we can use your bike to pull bikes out of the ditch
Ollie M:
I know you overtook me in the dry |
I nearly ran into you as well. That's what happens when you follow a track bike with no brake light
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stooz
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30 Nov 2004 10:33 |
so far then:
France down, Spain boat back in the casino/bar way past closing is:
Paul "log jumper" T
La La "backup van" Ollie
Kev "Jinx" m
Mr casino Carter
Big "wont turn up" Dog
and me and Blizzard on the fence..
have to say blizz, im torn between joining the gang, and the easy route....
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Blizzard
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30 Nov 2004 10:38 |
Mr Carter (RAT man) says I'm a soft southerner for even thinking about the santander route. 
I may have to do France both ways now just to prove him wrong.  It's only 700 miles each way 
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stooz
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30 Nov 2004 10:44 |
so to recap..
so far then:
France down, Spain boat back in the casino/bar way past closing is:
Paul "log jumper" T
La La "backup van" Ollie
Kev "Jinx" m
Mr casino Carter
Big "wont turn up" Dog
soft southerner Blizzard
apex king Stoooz.....
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X-Man
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30 Nov 2004 12:23 |
maybe, just maybe...
tony "Ducati" woodhouse
but I promise to ride well behind you so as not to be thought with you IYSWIM 
Of course I will overtake you all at regular intervals just to show you how much better a 750CC Ducati is against a 955CC Triumph and to display my superior cornering skills
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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
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30 Nov 2004 15:57 |
[edited]: Recommended
The most 'popular' or recommended route would be:
1)Ride down through France
2)Ferry back
1)the logic being that on the way down you're at your crispest and freshest and got the whole weekend to look forward to.The ride from Santander to Andorra is almost as long as French Channel port -Andorra.
2)After riding the nuts off your bike and reducing the Spanish domestic stock of Rioja wine and Catalan cava, you don't have the long motorway 'drag' back through France, which works out as expensive as the ferry anyway. Just spend 24 hours chilling out in the bars and casino and bragging about the knee-down that got away...
or...
Option 2:
Move to Spain and start the RAID from there
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Dog
in the kennel,
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30 Nov 2004 16:13 |
Has anyone thought of riding the Ferry over... then simply waiting around at the port and drinking more beer... then meeting up with the gang on the return leg and getting back on the Ferry?
 
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Back Burner
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30 Nov 2004 16:44 |
Big "wont turn up" Dog .....
strange, locally he's called 'Wide Load'.....
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Ollie
Bristol,
United Kingdom
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30 Nov 2004 23:04 |
[edited]:
Le Chien grand......aka Convoi exceptionell!!
Me, I'm going for the France down ferry back option.
Not sure what bike I'll be taking though.
I might try and blag a Tiger from local dealers.
Blizz, sorry for holding you up...That's the problem with hire 'race bikes'.
THey tell you you're going home if you stray off the black stuff.
I'd have been way quicker round there on me Tona, even my KTM actually(with stickier tyres).
Couldn't get used to vague feel of the front end.(!!!)
Now where's my chequebook? 
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Paul T
Bristol,
United Kingdom
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
30 Nov 2004 23:18 |
[edited]:
Me too.
Longest way down, quickest way back.............er, is that right ?
Slow boat both ways would only appeal to total girls. Which is where stooz comes in.
On the other hand, lovely as France is, doing 600 miles in a day doesn't give you much opportunity to savour the experience.
So, I prefer, overnight boat to Le Harve or somewhere, a good chunck of France after landing, over to Andorra next day, a few days looning around the Pyrenees, and then limping back to a slow boat for a long drinkie / bullshitting session.
Depending on sailing times, it won't necessarily take any longer to get home.
It all comes down to ferry times and prices, if there's no boat on the Monday afternoon/evening, then it's not going to work, at least, not very well.
Answers on a postcard please................
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Ollie
Bristol,
United Kingdom
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01 Dec 2004 01:01 |
According to Carter the unstoppable...there won't be a Portsmouth Le Havre by May time so the plan would be to go for cheaper option of Dover Calais on the morning of May 11th. Find somewhere that evening a a la Ibis and hare down towards Toulouse and warm sunny roads on 12 th to be in position for Raid on the 13th. Sounds bueno to me. I'm going for the three night option. I'll need a proper holiday by then.......
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stooz
lower midlands,
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01 Dec 2004 09:07 |
paul:
if there's no boat on the Monday afternoon/evening, then it's not going to work |
The spanish ferry leaves 16:30 monday, back in the UK 11am.
paul:
Slow boat both ways would only appeal to total girls. Which is where stooz comes in. |
Im going to pee in your fuel for that one
.. anyway, it was softy blizz that suggested it.
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
01 Dec 2004 11:40 |
[edited]:
Simon Carter via Ollie M:
there won't be a Portsmouth Le Havre by May |
I had a look of www.cheap4ferries.com last night and I could get a quote for Portsmouth-Le Havre May 11 2005 last night (P&
I also had a look and Portsmouth - Caen and it's over £100 cheaper if you are doing the santander - plymouth return £250 vs £375 because both ways are brittany ferries.
As everyone else is going via france and I don't want to be left alone, I'll leave the long ferry out to stooz
It's only 700 miles from the Normandy coast to andorra so you wouldn't have to push it that much to get there (overnight ferry arrives 7:15am )
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stooz
lower midlands,
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01 Dec 2004 12:20 |
The plan from simon is dover / calais. He has allegedly already booked P&O, but seafrance is cheaper by £12
seafrance
Outward Dover to Calais Wed 11 May at 11:00
Details Adult : 1
Vehicle: Motorcycle , L=2m, H=1m
Fare E/B STANDARD RETURN - £30.50
The "cheapferry" websites are quoting P&O from portsmouth, but the p&O website is showing that routes tickets, will be transferred to another operator by then (hopefully!)
- too risky!
--> then there is the discussion about sandanter 16:00 - 13:00 next day, or bilbao 13:00 to 17:00 next day...
they are similar prices..
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
01 Dec 2004 13:11 |
[edited]:
stooz
Is that 11 am ?
RE: portsmouth. I looked at the Caen route which is britanny ferries and cheaper
Is softy simon planning to take 3 days to get to spain then ?
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stooz
lower midlands,
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01 Dec 2004 15:33 |
[edited]: 11am yes.
how is ports/caen cheaper? they appear to want £80 for man+bike?
carter:
initial plan is to ride for Wednesday afternoon and get a few miles down before a nights accommodation. Thursday aim to get south of Toulouse and as close to the Pyrenees as we can. Friday relaxed play day into Andorra |
It does sound like a little more time allowance for france. Possibly based on the fact the ferry doesn't dock in france until 12:45 (local) so your not going to get much covered that day.
whats the preference for everyone on the above santander Vs Bilbao debate?
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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01 Dec 2004 15:54 |
[edited]:
Stooz
The cheaper option was when you included the return leg from santander
I think it is the same price for a single but as it is brittany ferries to caen and from santander you get a 'return' price instead of two 'singles'
I suppose it also depends on when you can get to the ferry port.
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stooz
lower midlands,
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01 Dec 2004 18:05 |
THE FINAL SOLUTION - FORGET THE REST
Spent the afternoon surfing and calling all the ferry firms, and chatting to Mr Carter....
The 'Formal' RAT UK ride is going to be;
P&O Dover / Calais 10:30am depart 11th May
return
Bilbao/ Portsmouth 13:15 (return UK 17:15)
-------------------
Book using www.poferries.com to get a quote, then call 08705 202020 to sort out !!
Book by 12th January for decent discounts (more than RiDE mag discount!)
The online quote will be:
£108.50 for the ferries
£75 for a twin cabin (inside economy)
thats £146 each
but you can't book 2 bikes + 1 room online, and when you phone up, it comes out as £200++
So, you may need to book #twice# online and end up with 2 cabins, get the reference numbers, and call up to cancel one cabin.. (complicated innit?)
I spoke to a "Rob" on extension 4459 who seemed clued up on how to sort out the cabins.
Of course you can choose whichever crossing you like, eg, the santander ferry allow more spanish time for riding or last minute shopping (santander is a great town for that) and an early return to the UK, the best deal I could get came out to £203
This is due to return ticket discounts as blizzard pointed out.
You may, however, end up spending the extra £50 by being stuck on the boat till 17:30 on the bilbao ferry.. (those lunches arent cheap!) So it really is down to personal preference.
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stooz
lower midlands,
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01 Dec 2004 18:06 |
The dover route was chosen over other portsmouth/plymouth options, as it gives us the chance to take a different route through france, as previous raid goers will have travelled them before.
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Speedy
Frozen Bollocks,
United Kingdom
Posts: 607
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
01 Dec 2004 18:30 |
Dont Forget Little ol me
im doing the maths now .... is there space left.
i'll probably do the trip down through france ...... and the Andorra thing sounds good. Have travelled from my house in France to Catulunya L'Estartit before and that was a good run.
I may decide to go and see friends in Swizterland on the way back. Luckily familiy house near Pyrenees in Cevennes region near "Bike" playground so could be fun
http://www.multimap.com/m......x=4&in.y=9
Roads around Albi and Cahors are pretty good
Speedy
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Blizzard
Coventry,
United Kingdom
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Daytona 955i (04->)
02 Dec 2004 12:27 |
There's no way I can make the Wed am ferry so i'll have to see you there
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stooz
lower midlands,
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02 Dec 2004 12:56 |
phone in sick!
if you can't wangle anything, shouldn't be too hard to catch us up on the first day.
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
02 Dec 2004 15:06 |
it's more a case of childcare arrangements rather than time off that's the issue.
As a first timer I'd like to go but the current arrangements leave me on my own.
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Paul T
Bristol,
United Kingdom
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
03 Dec 2004 21:42 |
Bliz, you could chip across to Caen on the Thursday morning
and meet up with us in the evening down in the south of France.
You'll cover the ground quicker on your own, without all the fag/waz/nosh breaks.
I'm half tempted to leave a little earlier and stay a night with my friends down near La Rochelle, in which case we could blast down together. Just an idea.
All this choice is confusing me.
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
03 Dec 2004 22:44 |
Paul
I've driven in France a few times but never on the bike.
I did the return from the Highland Raid myself this year (500 miles) but it just feels a bit daunting to cover the length of France in a day by myself.
If I can find someone else that doesn't need to stop every 30minutes for a fag break then I will be a lot happier
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
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04 Dec 2004 11:45 |
I don't need to stop for a fag break every thirty minutes but need to stop for go juice around every hour (120 to the tank full)
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
04 Dec 2004 15:45 |
On the last CAT raid the norm was to stop every 100 miles or so for fuel, fag, etc - just about right I thought
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Paul T
Bristol,
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
04 Dec 2004 21:11 |
Stopping every 100 miles did seem to work out ok, it's just that groups seem to faff about a bit. ( I'm as guilty as everyone else in this respect ).
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
04 Dec 2004 22:09 |
Stopping every 100 mile would mean putting half a tank at a time. Normally I fill up at aroubnd 150mile mark
On a recent run to Edinburgh I stopped to fill up at Kendal services on the M6 with 166 miles and the fuel light not yet on
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
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04 Dec 2004 22:34 |
So only put some in once every other fill. I promise you if you ride with me you will not get the fuel economy any more 
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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05 Dec 2004 10:11 |
Tony's right - normal cruising on last years RAT was around the 100-110 mark - doubt you'll get 166 miles at that speed ....
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Blizzard
Coventry,
United Kingdom
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Daytona 955i (04->)
05 Dec 2004 12:44 |
So, is anybody planning to do Portsmouth-france overnight Wed and back on the Santander ferry or is it just me ?
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Ollie
Bristol,
United Kingdom
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07 Dec 2004 20:21 |
[edited]:
Just you so far, Blizz
My cheque is winging its way to Hinckley tomorrow. My planned stay is three nights in Hehthtthtthespana and my proposed route is Dover Calais with the Carter posse on the 10th at 1030am, with return from Bilbao to Portsmouth on 16th May.
Now my confusion is all these prices, because of the way you can't book a cabin without paying for the two berth then claiming half back.
Without any code discount like the Bike one of "9632" I was quoted £293.50 for bike and two berth cabin on above crossing.
SC said it will come in at £236 with a £4 credit card surcharge.
Stooz said it was equal to £146 each though that was with the figures of £108.50 and £75. Er my brain's hurting, Brian...... I'll have to resort to the dog'n' bone. The site I tried was www.directferries.com and they have all the ferry operators on there.
As far as sharing, I'm easy cos I'll have my earplugs so don't mind sharing with snorers.....Paul, all is forgiven. Stooz, do you have a partner? If not may I have the pleasure??
Now, I need to book my Padfest train ticket!!
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stooz
lower midlands,
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08 Dec 2004 08:36 |
[edited]:
If you use www.poferries.com, and enter a return quote, no discount codes (before January) It should come back with a two berth+bike at 108+75
so for a pair, thats 108+108+75 = 291
291 /2 = 145 each
Then you have to phone them direct, and speak to "Rob" on extension 4459
and he will sort out adding a second biker to the cabin, which can't be done online.
I already have a partner, thanks ollie.
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
08 Dec 2004 10:56 |
Ollie
if you go on the 10th you will be a) by yourself and b) a day early. Are there any volunteers to help the old bloke from Bristol ?
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
08 Dec 2004 14:16 |
Ollie,
this all sounds a bit gay but I don't have a 'travelling companion' so as long as you get the dates right, I may be open to offers. Even though you asked Stooz first.
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stooz
lower midlands,
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08 Dec 2004 14:22 |
[edited]:
I already have a sailing buddy, so ollie can shack up with you Kevm 
Ive spoke to Ollie, He IS coming on the 11th !!
Kev, did you want to crash at mine the night before, to break up the journey a bit? although its not much of an improvment..
any one would think this was next week not 5 months away
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
08 Dec 2004 15:12 |
Might do, thanks for the offer - at least it will make sure I'm not an hour late meeting you again
Now, what time do we need to leave and what's the best route to Dover .....
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Speedy
Frozen Bollocks,
United Kingdom
Posts: 607
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
08 Dec 2004 17:56 |
hi assuming :
1). theres space left
2). i have the money
3) i can get over the ferry booking hurdles
if anyone wants to stay at my place you are welcome. I live in Reading so if you want to somewhere to crash let me know.
The garage is plenty big enough to take a couple more bikes but as ive only just moved in not sure what the sleeping arrangements will be as ive got boxes everywhere at the mo
Speedy
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
08 Dec 2004 23:53 |
Reading, that's more like it. Sounds like a plan ... And you've got 6 months to sort out my suite and heated garage for the bike.
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stooz
lower midlands,
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09 Dec 2004 10:07 |
[edited]:
count me in too speedy!! as long as I have a coat over my head I will sleep anywhere. Give me a daterape drug and im even easier.
I can fit my bike under the stairs cupboard or behind the sofa if the garage isn't carpeted and heated by then 
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Dog
in the kennel,
United Kingdom
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09 Dec 2004 15:41 |
[edited]:
believe it or not... my garage is actually carpeted & heated... and has a pool table, 2 sofas, tv, trumpet, duke and kwaka250 (in pieces)... any sleeper-overer's are welcome...
J4 on the M3 dont ya know...
*and* my local is a three minute walk away... and a 19 minute crawl back...
S200z - before you get too excited 'tv' stands for TeleVision...
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Back Burner
M3 J3,
United Kingdom
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
10 Dec 2004 17:52 |
got it yet Stooz?
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stooz
lower midlands,
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12 Dec 2004 18:22 |
Got what?
Kevm are you concerned strange men on the internet are trying to get us to sleep at their house? Sounds just like what the internet was invented for...
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
13 Dec 2004 15:00 |
[edited]:
I've just been looking through the latest edition of Torque and the Pyrenees RAID is being advertised by a couple of pics of a Silver 955.
Is it yours stooz ?
P.S. I may have to go on the Highland RAID instead as the Saturday night includes a whisky tasting 
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stooz
lower midlands,
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13 Dec 2004 15:14 |
There not on at the same time are they?
The tona looks remarkably like senor simons to me.
I love the piece on "a day in the life" I shall have to take the mick at the weekend at the RAT party, gets in for 7? My Arse...
And Ollies bristol ratpack photo - kev and PaulT - but I think its fake -Paul hasn't got a fag in his mouth...
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
13 Dec 2004 15:21 |
The Highlands RAID is 15-17 July. It's just that I can only do 1 RAID a year and ATM the Pyrenees raid is not looking good
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
13 Dec 2004 15:23 |
is my bike in it ? - if the indicator is on it's definitely me
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
13 Dec 2004 16:05 |
Page RW14 - baldy scottish bloke with Yellow Daytona
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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13 Dec 2004 16:31 |
Oi!! I resemble that remark !
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stooz
lower midlands,
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14 Dec 2004 15:35 |
[edited]:
Does everyone fancy NOT going over the new bridge on the A75? Im scared of heights!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol.....ridge/img/1.jpg
Inline Image
news report
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
14 Dec 2004 15:48 |
It's the thought of that nice emtpy run down into the valley and back up again that sounds more appealling
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Ollie
Bristol,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,053
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14 Dec 2004 20:58 |
Re. silver tona and Ratpack photo
That's Senor Simon with the snowboard.(and silver tona)....Silver Tona's will be collectable soon I reckon.. They definitely look miles better than the 04 model. Ps did you see what TWO says about the Tona? "They look like they'll rot more quickly" or words to that effect!!
Nice to get a photo into Torque magazine(see my camera does work sometimes!!).
Must get busy with planning some more outings(no gay comments please) and trips/events with bald scotsmen.
Blizzard, whaddaya mean the Pyrenees trip ain't looking good at the moment? Forget the whiskey, Rioja's where it's at man
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stooz
lower midlands,
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15 Dec 2004 08:24 |
LaLa:
Silver Tona's will be collectable soon I reckon |
especially if we keep crashing them.
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Blizzard
Coventry,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
15 Dec 2004 10:56 |
Ollie
nobody want's to do the manly 'ride through France in a day'.
everyone else is doing the girly 'take two days to get through France' 
I'd rather not be stuck in France by myself
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Speedy
Frozen Bollocks,
United Kingdom
Posts: 607
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
16 Dec 2004 18:02 |
ive been through the tarn valley and across top of mountains a few times ... great views and roads and close to my mums place on the east side of millau near Ganges.
the smaller roads along the tarn valley/river are superb although can be a bit scary as cliffs overhang road almost like a tunnel ... not many petrol stations around mountains either
the ardeche is to the north east about 2hrs away as well!! but can be real busy
Speedy
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Fret.
South.,
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19 Dec 2004 10:07 |
I shall be too skint to go on this, as well as only having 20 days holiday a year.
P&O ferries. DOn't book with em as they are ceasing trading at the end of this year from Portsmouth. The cheapest option by far is still to go via Dover. I got a quote for 85 quid, you can travel overnight or really early, ride till about 3 o'clock, find your Hotel nd relax for the evening.
My Brother lives near Portsmouth and has an house near Limoges. It is £100 cheaper to drive via dover. This includes fuel and motorway tolls.
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Fret.
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Tiger 1050 (07->)
19 Dec 2004 10:14 |
Anyone still going via Pompey is still welcome to stay with me here overnight if they wish tho. Got a spare bed and 2 settees
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Ollie
Bristol,
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05 Jan 2005 20:56 |
felicidade nuevo ano
....or some such bollox....
I'm fecking hacked off with websites(particularly Pand O's) which have errors so you can't access them.
I've been trying to book a ticket for the Pyrenees raid and have already been on the phone to Rob as suggested by Stooz.
He quoted me £335.50 which would be £167.50 each for Dover Calais and Bilbao Portamouth with a 2 berth cabin.
He gives me a reference and I phone back(after trying to access the website to get it for £146 each(as Stooz did) and give the girl the reference. It now comes up as £345.50 which is £172.50 each.
He remembered speaking to Stooz and recommended doing it via the web and cancelling the cabin to get the discount...which would then work out at £146...... But now the websites down and I'm going to bve out of the country from tomorrow until the 13th(discount runs out on the 12th)....
AAAAAAAAArrrrrrggggggghhhhhh.......I'm going to mail KEV M!!!
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kevm
Amber Valley,
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Daytona 955i (04->)
07 Jan 2005 11:02 |
Well I did it (got the £146 price) but it's not fecking easy. You book the 2 cabins on the website the ring up and say you want to cancel one. Girl on the phone then tell me that she will refund the £9.50 to my account. Wtf ? A lot of on-hold and ringing me back later, result, £75 refund. I think the problem is they just can't access the web prices from their system and what I was offered was the difference between what I paid online and the office version of what I wanted. They have to do something manual, get supervisor auth, etc, but persevere, be nice to them and they'll do it
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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
Spain
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Daytona 955i (04->)
12 Jan 2005 14:23 |
It's bleedin' selling out!
Got a RAID update message today from the nice Mr Simon Carter.
Surprised to learn that with still 4 months to go it's 75% sold out.
So if you're either:
A) Thinking of going
B) definitely not thinking of going
C) Already booked to go
Then book now, 'cause very soon, it may be too late...
¡Hasta luego amigos!
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stooz
lower midlands,
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12 Jan 2005 14:31 |
Thats good news simon, so how many of those are on the english run down? how many will be meeting in spain from your ratpack?
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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
Spain
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Daytona 955i (04->)
12 Jan 2005 23:21 |
Coole Britanniah
Practically everyone is Brit, (2 Germans). Probably a full house for Mr Carter's Euro Rat Raiders riding down together, and ferrying back I gather. It's gonna a be a very 'gay' return, in the old sense of the word.
Gonna be a right wing-dinger of a RAID is this one.
Looking forward to it. It may even end up being part of my
honeymoon...
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Ollie
Bristol,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,053
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13 Jan 2005 01:51 |
Just got back from sunny Spain
ethetheththether.......Been in Southern Spain for the last six days on a "father son" holiday. Beautiful and sunny/warm in the day...jolly cold in the evening....mio frio. Hired a Fiat Punto for 115 euros (not as quick as the 307) but drove some nice twisty roads around the Alpucherra and north of Almeria(Sorbas)...even checked out a bit of testing at Circuito de Almeria.
Saw a few British bikers...Ninja, Duke, Blade and some other japshit...lapping it up they were.
Muchos gracias Kev M for snapping it up (cheque's in the post....mail me your address).
only 16 and something weeks to go...... I love Spain... especially Rioja.
BTW what's this about honeymoon Simon???????
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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
Spain
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Daytona 955i (04->)
13 Jan 2005 20:50 |
[edited]: ¡Olé Ollie!
Glad you enjoyed ol sunny España. Sounded like a nice break.
Looks like they're gonna publish the Saturday RAID route in BIKE magazine 'Great Roads' section next issue. That'll save me doing part of the route book!!! If anyone sees it let me know.Then I can send me mum down to the shops for me. This month's prize is a trip to the see the Laguna Seca leg of MotoGP.
Cheers.
¡Hasta pronto!
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Paul T
Bristol,
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
31 Jan 2005 13:25 |
Right then.
After being a miserable bastard, and deciding not to go, I've now cheered up a bit and changed me mind.
Trouble is, it was this ferry nonsense that helped put me off in th first place.
I've just re read this thread, and it's no wonder P&O are going through the hoop when they make it nearly impossible to book a bastard ferry.
So, can someone give me the definitive ferry crossings, and a phone No. please ? Also, is there anyone left who wants to share a cabin ?
(Preferably someone whose a bit deaf) 
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stooz
lower midlands,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,114
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Enthusiast
31 Jan 2005 13:44 |
whats this about not coming? !! why not? email me..
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P&O Dover / Calais 10:30am depart 11th May
return Bilbao/ Portsmouth 16th May 13:15 (return UK 17:15)
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use www.poferries.com to check the quote, then call 08705 202020 to book, ask for rob on 4459 ideally, as some of them arent clued up.
The online quote will be:
£108.50 for the ferries
£75 for a twin cabin (inside economy)
thats £146 each
Just ran it thru again for you Paul, the ferry is now cheaper @ £102
so, go on your own for £177, or split the cabin to save £35.
If you go on your own, you can just book online, and not pee about on the phone.
have you tried tony? earlier he suggested he might come?
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Paul T
Bristol,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,435
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
31 Jan 2005 17:05 |
Nice one Stu, job done.
I've now got a cabin to myself, so I won't have to listen to light sleepers
alledging that I snore like a bastard, which as you know, just isn't true.
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stooz
lower midlands,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,114
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Enthusiast
01 Feb 2005 11:50 |
Great news Paul. look forward to seeing you again
Will you be fitting ski's this year?
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Ollie
Bristol,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,053
Enthusiast
01 Feb 2005 13:31 |
.........
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kevm
Amber Valley,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,885
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Daytona 955i (04->)
01 Feb 2005 13:49 |
Yeah, dunno what you're laughing about 
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Ollie
Bristol,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,053
Enthusiast
01 Feb 2005 19:26 |
.........Exactly, mon amigo
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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
Spain
Posts: 1,718
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Daytona 955i (04->)
05 Feb 2005 10:03 |
Yeah!!
That's great that you're coming Paul. We'll be going up high enough to see some snow, just to bring back good memories
Everyone should leave enough room in their throwovers for anti-hangover pills and that extra gear you'll be getting in Andorra and those souvenir donkeys,etc...
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kevm
Amber Valley,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,885
Premier Member
Daytona 955i (04->)
05 Feb 2005 12:13 |
[edited]:
Simon,
are you recommending muffs this year, only I've got some now.
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Barney
South West,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,509
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Sprint ST (05->)
05 Feb 2005 13:07 |
Hi I am booked on the raid anyone iterested in sharing a cabin on the return leg.
Waring if I've been drinking have a tendancy to belch,fart and scratch my ass.
Haven't booked yet taking the tunnel on wed afternoon and meeting Simon in Foix on the second night.
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Señor Simón
Barcelona, Catalunya,
Spain
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06 Feb 2005 12:20 |
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