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robert van der meulen
oud beijerland,
Netherlands
Posts: 9
Daytona 955i (99-01)
08 Oct 2004 18:52 |
I am toying with the idea to fit USD forks to my '99 Daytona, preferrably Ohlins ( if I can find them 2nd hand.....  ) or 916/999-type Showa.
Has anybody done something like this allready ??.
Any tips, hints or pictures ??
Thanks
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trevski
canterbury,
New Zealand
Posts: 570
Speed Triple T509 (97-98)
08 Oct 2004 19:20 |
usd's
guess anything can be made to fit, if you've got access to engineering tackle, but an easy swap would be nice. have heard
of honda vfr ones been fitted, but don't know how easy it is. 
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Goldviking
North-Jutland,
Denmark
Posts: 1,364
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Daytona 955i (02)
09 Oct 2004 18:41 |
Member Spondonash has a TL thou' USD fork on his bike, and member Steve Phillips used a gixxer thou' fork.
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 2,079
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
09 Oct 2004 23:15 |
I've used 916/996 Showa items with Brembo calipers, I was able to retain the Triumph wheel as I had a new set of yokes made, allowing the forks to be set the right distance apart.
I had a sleeve/spacer made for the right fork this enabled me to use the stock wheel spindle also, it clamps up ok in the left fork.
The Ducati forks are shorter than the Triumph ones so I had the top yoke stepped to allow for this.
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 ќіńġ ☺ ќёy
Essex/London,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10,622
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Daytona 955i (99-01)
10 Oct 2004 18:42 |
Was it worth all that agro? Not meaning to be rude, seems like a lot of work for possibly not much difference.
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 2,079
Premier Member
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
10 Oct 2004 20:04 |
Yes it was!! is and will be, I've got a complete one off front end for about a third of the price of a pair of Ohlins
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Fret.
South.,
United Kingdom
Posts: 36,240
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Tiger 1050 (07->)
10 Oct 2004 22:57 |
As Dave says, why bother? You won't notice any difference on the road. A track however you may.
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robert van der meulen
oud beijerland,
Netherlands
Posts: 9
Daytona 955i (99-01)
11 Oct 2004 08:15 |
I can hardly imagine that there is no noticable difference between USD and conventional forks.
If there would be no difference at all, why does every recent sportbike have them, even if they are supposably a little bit heavier than "conventional" forks ??. I am shure there is more to it than fashion alone.
The thing i am not happy with is that the standard forks seems very prone to stick-slip. This has become much more obvious since i repaced the rear shock with an Ohlins.
I do not want to changing it's appearance too much, i prefer to keep it subtle with using as much original parts if possible.
Theoretically USD-forks should be stiffer and not so prone to stick, als the legs are much longer inside the slider ( and so producing a lighter load on the bushes ) and therefore have smaller diameter.
Even 999's, GSX-R1000 and R1's "only" have 43 mm legs, instead of my Daytona's 45 mm.
Mr.C., did you use the original speedo drive, as on a Ducati this is on the other side.
Any more peole with ideas out there ??
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Goldviking
North-Jutland,
Denmark
Posts: 1,364
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Daytona 955i (02)
11 Oct 2004 08:27 |
USD forks looks the business IMHO...... and a one off bike, that's just another 
Another advantage is the lower unsprung weight.
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 2,079
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
11 Oct 2004 18:04 |
[edited]:
I had to replace the forks as the OE ones were F****D, So I was able to replace them with items which even standard are better, set up correctly with Ohlins springs they will perform better and they were a lot cheaper! The whole point of doing this project is to have the' bike I want', its also a enjoyable learning process, so in certain respects money is not the main objective.
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 2,079
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
11 Oct 2004 18:10 |
I used the Triumph wheel so that I could retain the same speedo drive, it only takes a small modification to fit with the Ducati forks, plus I like the OE wheels otherwise they'd have been E-Bayed off in favour of some Dymags
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Jeff Spencer
Southport,
United Kingdom
Posts: 664
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
11 Oct 2004 22:50 |
Definately a step in the right direction using USD forks and if you can sell your orig setup you can virtually halve the cost of the conversion.I did mine some time ago with Showa units from an NR750 very rare and trick and work superbly with the Triumph.Billet yokes etc have transformed the bikes handling and I can be sure that it is true one off.All I need now is the paintwork and I can finally call it finished.If anyone is considering the conversion try Dave Silver spares for your forks-rare items are very cheap as there is little demand for them.I got lucky and got the NR items for £240 brand new!Hondas price would have been £3-4 grand.My tip would be to look for a bike with similar weight/characteristics and rare possibly a Jap market only model and give Dave a call-he may have a new set on the shelf gathering dust.
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Richard
Pickering,
Canada
Posts: 536
Daytona T595 (97-98)
12 Oct 2004 05:13 |
Mr C, Don't like the front end on my bike very much. Never made me feel comfortable. Think I'll go the same way you have.
How do you rate the Brembo callipers against the Triumph ones? I've always thought the Triumph brakes were the business, Its the one thing I'd be sorry to loose.
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 2,079
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
12 Oct 2004 19:36 |
I'm not able to pass judgement yet as the bike isn't due on the road till spring, it may be possible to use the Triumph calipers by having adapter plates made, this will increase the distance between the forks, something to be taken into account when having the yokes made.
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Richard
Pickering,
Canada
Posts: 536
Daytona T595 (97-98)
13 Oct 2004 03:50 |
Ok. Thanks. Always nice to know someone has been there and managed to make it work. Cuts down on the will it/wont it factor.
I'll get busy weilding the tape measure in a few Ducati owners garages before I go near a machine shop.
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robert van der meulen
oud beijerland,
Netherlands
Posts: 9
Daytona 955i (99-01)
18 Oct 2004 19:09 |
Yokes ( Yikes ?!??!? )
All you guys who have done a USD-conversion allready, how did you have your yokes machined ??
After a rethink and a discussion with my engineering dad, we came to the conclusion that the holes in the bottom yoke must be machined absolutely true ( CNC only !! ) to each other and the steering stem. Did any of you idicate any tolerances or something to the machining shop ??
Did you use the same clamp sizing on the bottom yoke or make it larger and lower down the fork legs like Ducati 998 or 999 ( these look REALLY massive ).
IMHO the legs will only stick worse if you get it wrong due to the more rigid construction. Steering precision might also be "entertaining".
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Jeff Spencer
Southport,
United Kingdom
Posts: 664
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
18 Oct 2004 22:54 |
Mine were machined on a XYZ cnc all bores for the stem and forks are bang on true.Clamp size depends on which forks are getting used as the profile defines the clamping points and dimensions.Accuracy when measuring fork size is key -do not rely on them being to the nearest mm.The dim on the lower clamping point on my forks was 56.4mm and the yoke was bored to match.When the clamp is split a gap of 2mm ensures that the pinch bolts take out any slack and also allow for trouble free fitting/removal of the fork.I still have all the dimensions somewhere and a programmable cad drawing as well I think.Stuart (Homer)had pics of the yokes in the old shop section if he is following this maybe he can put them back up somewhere-tech faq Stu?If you need any help/advice I am only to happy to give you any if you want to email me
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Bluedogz
Havre de Grace, MD,
USA
Posts: 4,291
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20 Oct 2004 03:50 |
Forgive the dumb question
But wouldn't it be easier to seek a set of USD's with a similar diameter in the neck (maybe wrong term here- the part that goes through the frame), then just get the appropriately-sized bearings to allow it to fit into the frame? Then just bolt the whole damn show on in one go.
I would think it's a whole lot easier to get tapered bearings of a specific size than to have yokes machined etc . etc.
This is how I got a Blade front on a Hawk GT/NT650 years ago and it worked great. Obviously, I'm assuming that the overall length of the setup is similar to the Triumph.
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robert van der meulen
oud beijerland,
Netherlands
Posts: 9
Daytona 955i (99-01)
23 Oct 2004 12:02 |
Bluedogz,
This might be a possability, but will never be an improvement.
If you look at chassis data it is clear that it can be an improvemet on a Honda Hawk, but not on a Daytona;
First of all handling is determined ( among others ) by headstock angle and trail. Trail is the result of this headstock angle and yoke offset. The steeper the headstock and/or the shorter the trail, the better ( = theoretically more unstable !! ) it will handle.
This is always a compromise between ability to change direction with little effort / precision and stability.
1; A Honda Hawk has a pretty conservative geometry because of it's small size and weight; a longish trail of 112 mm with a 62 degr. headstock angle.
The first generation Fireblade has 89 mm trail at 66 degr. headstock angle, so much more agressive.
If you do some calculations, the outcome is that the original fork yokes on Hawk and Blade have near identical offset, the Blade being a bit longer. So a complete Blade front end in a Hawk will result in a bit less trail making it turn even faster.
Of course this is only so if the fork length is identical.
( Personally I dont see the point as with a better rear shock it already outhandles your brain !! ). The 16" frontwheel may even make this advantage undone because of the too large (130 !! ) front tyre.
2: A Daytona has about the most agressive geometry to be found (, about the same as the first generation Blade ).
All bikes which have suitable front ends ( especially Ducati 916-998 and 999 ) have much longer trail with identical headstock angles. ( Even so, these forks are some 7 mm shorter with stepped top yoke and VERY low bars. This will never ever fit inside a Daytona's fairing. )
So any straight front end swap using the yokes which came with the USD-forks will result in a much longer trail, making it more stable ( which is unwanted, it is very stable as it is ) and much more reluctant to change direction.
IMHO the only way to go is one-off yokes, as i want this to work, not only look good....
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Bluedogz
Havre de Grace, MD,
USA
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23 Oct 2004 13:54 |
Ah... makes much more sense now. Sometimes I feel like my sport is passing me by.....
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trevski
canterbury,
New Zealand
Posts: 570
Speed Triple T509 (97-98)
23 Oct 2004 15:40 |
have a look at mario de lisi's profile, he's got a real neet speedtriple with usd's and mv agusta seat.  unfortunatly he doesn't say what the forks are off.
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Goldviking
North-Jutland,
Denmark
Posts: 1,364
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Daytona 955i (02)
23 Oct 2004 16:23 |
They're Öhlins. Looks like custom made yokes.
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robert van der meulen
oud beijerland,
Netherlands
Posts: 9
Daytona 955i (99-01)
24 Oct 2004 11:03 |
They are OEM-type Ohlins.
Looking at the length of the legs they are probably off a Aprilia RSV Mille R or some limited edition Guzzi.
The Ohlins forks which are easiest to find ( over her at least... ) are from Ducati's but they are 7 mm shorter than Triumph forks.
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trevski
canterbury,
New Zealand
Posts: 570
Speed Triple T509 (97-98)
30 Oct 2004 14:58 |
wouldn't have thought been 7mm shorter would make too much difference, slightly quicken the steering if anything.
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trevski
canterbury,
New Zealand
Posts: 570
Speed Triple T509 (97-98)
13 Nov 2004 11:49 |
just bin to the show, new speed triple,mmmmmm the rear end needs some work, but them there usd's and radial brakes look lerrrrrvely !!!
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 2,079
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
13 Nov 2004 12:24 |
Yea, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but they could have waited till I'd finished mine! 
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
16 Nov 2004 12:51 |
I just pue a set of USD forks on my bike, check my profile for a picture.
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Isaac Hunt
Wiltshire,
United Kingdom
Posts: 26,809
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Speed Triple (95-96)
16 Nov 2004 12:54 |
kin ell they look smart what were they off and is that a Turbo I see under the oil cooler 
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
16 Nov 2004 13:05 |
Forks are 2004 GSXR1000.
Yes it is a turbo... 165hp at the wheel at 7800rpm.
I seem to have a problem, want more power.
My latest project is fitting a 685cc two stroke single into a little RS250 Honda chassis, should be a laugh.
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
16 Nov 2004 13:28 |
I should also point out that the forks are using the triple clamps that they came with, these have the same stem length as the Triumph.
I used the Triumph lower bearing and put a new bearing in the top. Steve from Race Comp gave me the part number for a bearing that fits the Triumph head and the Suzuki stem.
Previously I had a set of billet clamps with 30mm offset (Standard is 35mm), the 30mm was much better.
The Suzuki is 25mm and feels better again.
Fork springs in the USD forks are standard and I am using the Triumph wheel and brake rotors.
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Isaac Hunt
Wiltshire,
United Kingdom
Posts: 26,809
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Speed Triple (95-96)
16 Nov 2004 13:42 |
That conversion looks the dogs bollox only problem would be obtaining a set as GSXR`s rarely have a habit of crashing into things backward 
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
16 Nov 2004 13:45 |
But they do get raced.
Ohlins forks, billet clamps, brembo brakes..... Lots of spare standard bits.
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Isaac Hunt
Wiltshire,
United Kingdom
Posts: 26,809
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Speed Triple (95-96)
16 Nov 2004 14:09 |
Good point after seeing the 05 SP3 in the flesh the only bit I liked was the forks/front brake set up so I shall be investigating further ...
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
Enthusiast
16 Nov 2004 15:53 |
did you use the Suzi's front wheel shaft or triumph's? straight swap?
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Bluedogz
Havre de Grace, MD,
USA
Posts: 4,291
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Enthusiast
16 Nov 2004 17:40 |
I sense an upcoming run on the market in '04 GSXR parts....
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
16 Nov 2004 20:54 |
[edited]:
On my bike I used the Suzuki axle. 1997-2001 Triumphs have the same axle size as the Suzuki so it fits the wheel.
For the 2002 onward it is better to use the Triumph axle and make inserts to fit the Suzuki wheel.
You can even use the Suzuki steering damper.
The only let down on my bike is the top triple clamp. The steering lock is in the wrong position.
I am getting a new top triple clamp made to solve this problem.
If anyone is interested in a kit (bearings, spacers, bolts and top triple clamp) to fit this type of front end they can email me.
The triple clamp will be a bit like the 999 top clamp.
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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17 Nov 2004 09:29 |
On my bike I used the Suzuki axle. 1997-2001 Triumphs have the same axle size as the Suzuki so it fits the wheel.
no problem with the speedo sender or spacers??
I'm sourcing a set of forks as we speak, how much for the top bearing/yokes kit Wayne?
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Andy B
Naked in Staines,
United Kingdom
Posts: 905
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
17 Nov 2004 10:02 |
04 suzy forks do seem the way forward .....
USD and radial brakes .... the 2 main reasons i'd buy (if i had the cash) the new S3 ..
I can live without another 100cc and those pipes
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Isaac Hunt
Wiltshire,
United Kingdom
Posts: 26,809
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Speed Triple (95-96)
17 Nov 2004 10:03 |
That is exactly the way I feel
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 2,079
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
17 Nov 2004 22:51 |
Paul
When I was doing a bit of research into it I was over at Cresents in Verwood, chucked in the corner were some sets of OE forks, not only do they set up the Rizla bikes but customers have Ohlins fitted from new, hence the left over standard jobbies, they aint cheap though!! give 'em a bell
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Jeff Spencer
Southport,
United Kingdom
Posts: 664
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
17 Nov 2004 23:07 |
If you get Ducati forks or other Showas you can get the fork bottoms changed for radial mounts or alternatively have the mounts cnc machined.Triumph went to a huge amount of effort to upgrade the already excellent braking on the front end of its triples-it will be interesting to see if the new system is really that much better in the real world of street riding or whether they have just followed the trend re radial calipers.If I could afford it I would personally go for rim mounts-Braking do a kit which includes a new front wheel for around a grand.Aesthetically IMHO preferable as the front wheel looks less cluttered in the same way an sssa cleans up the rear.
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
18 Nov 2004 05:45 |
The radial brakes feel very good.
I have had a few people ride the bike and they all like the feel.
Now that I have a Suzuki front end and a Subaru turbo, I will have to call the bike a Trizukibaru.
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Bluedogz
Havre de Grace, MD,
USA
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18 Nov 2004 12:19 |
At 168 bhp I might like the feel of the thing coming to a a stop any way possible, even if I have to carry an anchor around on my back.....
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Isaac Hunt
Wiltshire,
United Kingdom
Posts: 26,809
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Speed Triple (95-96)
18 Nov 2004 13:24 |
Cheers Mr C a damn good idea
When you say "they ain`t cheap" did they mention a figure ???
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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19 Nov 2004 02:05 |
guess who just won a set of 2004 gixxer forks for 180 quids on ebay....
YUM !!!
next I need the calipers.... anyone knows if the kwaki radial jobby fits the gixxer's forks?
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
19 Nov 2004 05:09 |
Erick.
Did you get the top and bottom clamps and steering damper?
Callipers can be had on EBay for anything from $43 to $100 USD
GSXR600 and 750 callipers are the same as the 1000.
I would stick with the Suzuki parts as I know they line up with the rotors.
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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19 Nov 2004 07:36 |
nope Wayne, just the forks legs, I will stick with Suzi parts as you suggest.
now I need to find:
calipers
bottom clamps
wheel axle
top clamp + bearing
Am I missing something Wayne? Also, i'm still interested in the price of that kit of yours (top yokes+bearing)
thanx mate!
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
19 Nov 2004 07:53 |
RaceComp's 97/01 Triumph steering damper
Hi Guys,
I’ve just fitted a Hyperpro steering damper to our 2001 Daytona. I made a fitting kit for it as Hyperpro don’t make one.. It will fit any Daytona/Speed Triple from 1997-2001 A kit is also available to fit the GSXR top clamp. Cost of the Damper and fitting kit is approximately AU$800.00.Check out my profile for the pictures.
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trevski
canterbury,
New Zealand
Posts: 570
Speed Triple T509 (97-98)
19 Nov 2004 19:11 |
sure looks the part, how did you fit the bracket to the frame...drill and tap? nicely done to be sure. 
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,379
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19 Nov 2004 21:24 |
Oi, Mr Philips, get back to making the carbon bits you slacker
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
19 Nov 2004 23:56 |
 Shit!!!!!! I can’t hide anywhere on this site. LOL…. OK Tony I’ll get back to work….. I’ll just finish cleaning the BBQ after a beautiful pommie breakfast!!! Now were did I put my sunny’s……. 
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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21 Nov 2004 18:57 |
Wayne,
are you positive about your offset value? it looks like the gixxer thou has 32mm offset.
the 600 has 20mm so it seems, so maybe you got 750's items ?
oh I found a set of radial calipers and a front axle, just need to sort out the clamps / bearing story.
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Richard
Pickering,
Canada
Posts: 536
Daytona T595 (97-98)
27 Nov 2004 05:35 |
Erick, I've done the same as you, bought a complete 04 Suzuki front end from Ebay, $650usd, brakes, bars, yokes, everything.
Hasn't arrived yet, biting my nails. Seller claims, fits 600/750.
I'd be interested to know how you came by the different offset values for each model, I thought they were all the same - and how your getting on fitting them? Anything ??
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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27 Nov 2004 09:05 |
Richard, I didn't buy a complete front end unfortunately, and I am still missing the bars and top yoke.
purchased the forks, calipers,wheel axle, found a bottom yoke last nite which I ordered.
All the parts are coming from the USA so it's gonna be a while before I get them, and really get me hands greasy.
Then you need other bits and bobs: the caliper bolts need to be longer (70mm apparently) because you'll need to rise the calipers by 10 mm. it's the beauty of radial calipers...easy to do, but you gotta find the spacers...
you'll need a new top bearing, the bottom one is the normal triumph one.
I've been on to Wayne about the mod, he's designing a top clamp (lovely looking!) which I'll get to complete the new front end.
the offset is different between the 600; 750 and 1000, or that's what everybody says.... but at the same time, they can't give me the offset value for each !
Only thing I am positive of, the the gixxer Thou, the yokes have 32mm offset, and Wayne will go with that value for his top yokes.
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BC
North Carolina,
USA
Posts: 1,118
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27 Nov 2004 19:15 |
Durn Frenchies...
Snapping up our parts before we can gram 'em... 
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
Enthusiast
27 Nov 2004 23:11 |
not my fault if you lot are more into Hardley ablesons...
seriously, ebay is full of gixxer parts, and many sellers will only ship within the US... go for it !
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BC
North Carolina,
USA
Posts: 1,118
Enthusiast
27 Nov 2004 23:19 |
Hmmmm... Time for some holiday shopping. 
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Richard
Pickering,
Canada
Posts: 536
Daytona T595 (97-98)
28 Nov 2004 05:27 |
Erick, I'll take some measurements when my forks arrive and let you know what I find. Spacers I'll make and bearings I can find through suppliers to my place of work. I'll deal with the top clamp somehow or other once I've seen just what the problem is. Be in touch soon.
BC. You are asleep. Bought this stuff from Ebay US. Even had to ship them to a friend in Michigan but at these prices, whose complaining.
Got to love it when the US goes to war AND the dollar still falls. Got to tell you something-----I'm sorry to add.
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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28 Nov 2004 09:25 |
The top bearing to use is NTN 4T-CR-0643 (tx a lot for the info Wayne) and the bottom is the stock triumph item: 32006 JR (ISO=T4CC030. To be confirmed) size: 55mm OD X 30mm ID
if you got gixxer 1000 forks, the yokes will have 32mm offset.
Be careful with caliper bolts, they need to be 10mm longer than stock to accomodate the spacers and the thread size is not a regular one.
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Richard
Pickering,
Canada
Posts: 536
Daytona T595 (97-98)
28 Nov 2004 23:29 |
Thanks Erick.
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
29 Nov 2004 09:08 |
I got my front end off Ebay.
$690 USD for everything, forks, clamps, bars, brakes etc.
In fact I have six sets (Got a little carried away).
Steve from RaceComp should be thanked for the top bearing number, I just passed the info on.
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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29 Nov 2004 09:46 |
Want to sell me a set Wayne?
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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29 Nov 2004 09:53 |
the original front fender will be a pain to adapt as well...  /
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
29 Nov 2004 20:34 |
[edited]:
RaceComp made a new front guard that fits the 2002-1000 forks for their latest bike; it’s a modified Triumph front guard. (Check out my profile for the pictures) I didn’t like the gixerr original. I will make the same style to fit the 2004 radial front when I do the next front end conversion. I just have a few things to do before that though!!!!! I need to fix up finger tapping Tony !!!!!!!
RaceComp is also working on a top mount steering damper to fit the 2002-2004 model Triumphs, that have been converted to Suzuki front end forks. There’s no room for the damper bracket, due to the tank being just that bit bigger. I’ve already done a set for the 1997-2001 Triumphs. The damper kit will fit any late model Suzuki top clamp.
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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29 Nov 2004 22:17 |
OK, just in case Wayne won't sell me some 2004 kit can I use earier bits without the radial mount brakes (6 pot nissins)?
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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29 Nov 2004 22:18 |
just to keep me busy till Mr Philips gets his arse in gear...
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
30 Nov 2004 05:56 |
I do plan to sell them.
The reason I bought five extra sets was to make it worth making a new top clamp.
My problem now is that four of the sets are GSXR600/750 and one GSXR1000, I also need a new top clamp for the set on my bike and another set a friend has.
Perhaps I should get top and bottom clamps made, at least that will fix the offset problem.
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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30 Nov 2004 08:22 |
Wayne, did you measure the offset on the 600/750 yokes? it might be the same as the thou...
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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30 Nov 2004 12:13 |
Wayne, you have mail via the t595 site. Or shall i send it to your other address?
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
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03 Dec 2004 17:10 |
So what difference would 20 dgrees as opposed to 30 degrees of offset make then? Wheel nearer to radiator, slower sterring, more nervous etc?
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trevski
canterbury,
New Zealand
Posts: 570
Speed Triple T509 (97-98)
03 Dec 2004 18:44 |
hi tony, i think less offset onthe fork clamp to steering stem measurement would shorten the wheelbase...but give you more trail. so more offset would do opposite. trail usually makes for less twichy steering, but as usual theres SO many variables. trials bikes have less trail for quick easy steering, crossers have more trail to make bike track straight over rough ground, it's a matter of getting balance right.
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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03 Dec 2004 19:05 |
exactly what I was told.
The stem angle is 23,5 degrees on the gixxer opposing 24 degrees on the Daytona (2001), so it's quite similar
however, the gixxer 1000 (K3) has 96mm trail, the daytona has less: 86mm ! 10mm difference is quite a lot.
I wonder how she handles with that much trail. Wayne can you describe the difference? is the steering much slower?
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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03 Dec 2004 20:41 |
hmm, well.. my daytona is pretty slow steering already (frks dropped 10mm, Jeff Spencer dog bone and 10mm ride height on the rear shock so I may as well bid on the GSXR forks from the 750 anyway just for the better feel ( cos it is sooooo vauge in the feeling department)
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
04 Dec 2004 09:34 |
I put a set of billet clamps with 30mm offset on my track bike.
The bike felt far more controlled in the turns, it held it's line better both on and off the throttle at full lean.
The GSXR1000 front end on my bike feels awesome.
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SpondonHAT
Boabekistan,
Australia
Posts: 3,390
Enthusiast
04 Dec 2004 11:28 |
I have put USD forks on both of my Triumphs. The first one was a 1995 Speed Triple, a very easy conversion as the discs are the same width as the donor GSXR forks and the headstem was the same so I could use the same bearings.
The other bike is a Spondon so it is set up for basically Suzuki forks or similar. I used TL1000 forks, Dymag wheel, ZXR calipers and 916 discs so anything can be made to fit anything else. Is it worthwhile ? Oh yes. USD forks look the bollocks.
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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04 Dec 2004 11:48 |
Love the way theyve done the rear subframe.
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SpondonHAT
Boabekistan,
Australia
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04 Dec 2004 22:21 |
who ?
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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04 Dec 2004 22:37 |
the Spondon
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
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04 Dec 2004 22:39 |
the Spondon, the way they have bought the large diameter frame rails up and then they poke out of the seat unit
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SpondonHAT
Boabekistan,
Australia
Posts: 3,390
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04 Dec 2004 22:47 |
Ah right, sorry wasn't sure if you meant Spondon or Triumph. Yes the Spondon frame is finished off really well at the rear. There is a short bolt on subframe incase of a spill it can be replaced. The whole thing is a work of art
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WindDrifter
Stuttgart,
Germany
Posts: 53
Daytona 955i (99-01)
13 Dec 2004 21:37 |
anyone know if a 2003 gixxer 1000 fork & triple clamp are same as 2004??
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
13 Dec 2004 22:33 |
Yes, exactly the same
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Tripped
Hawaii,
USA
Posts: 21
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
14 Dec 2004 17:47 |
Well, the question becomes when will these top yokes and bearing be available, and for how much?
As a LONG time gixxer rider, I really like the idea of adding a gixxer front to my triple.
How far off are the stops on the stock gixxer clamps? I'm seriously debating starting to go into part collection mode for a gix front. Even though I still need the cams to bump to motor up to Daytona spec.
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BC
North Carolina,
USA
Posts: 1,118
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15 Dec 2004 03:53 |
[edited]: This bloke won't ship to Hawaii, he claims, but...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaym.....ssPageName=WDVW
and there's also this one, but the seller doesn't have much feedback at all...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaym.....ssPageName=WDVW
any thoughts on whether these prices seem decent or too high?
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Tripped
Hawaii,
USA
Posts: 21
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
15 Dec 2004 14:14 |
Nice find
My main concern would be that the smaller gixxers only weigh about 360-370 dry. Speed Triples are what 425 or something. Still it's quite tempting though isn't it. Guess I could always respring the forks.
There's a set of forks for a gix1000 on there to, but they are at $500. I could always have them shipped to my parent's house in Indiana and have my folks ship the forks to me. I can't wait to get back to the mainland.
food for thought.....thanks for the tip off:)
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BC
North Carolina,
USA
Posts: 1,118
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16 Dec 2004 22:29 |
[edited]: For comparison
Called the local Suzi dealer today. For a 2004 GSXR 1000
Forks with internals were c. $1,600 (I think I'm remembering that right)
Complete front end (forks, upper and lower triple trees, all needed gaskets, etc) was $2,680.
Oh -- the front end price didn't include the axle. Forgot to add that in.
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
16 Dec 2004 23:17 |
Thats why I went with a second hand set of USD's from a Ducati 996 donor, and had a set of yokes made for about £450 total.
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Ade
Really pissed off,
United Kingdom
Posts: 20,264
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Speed Triple T509 (97-98)
16 Dec 2004 23:23 |
[edited]:
That thing you're building is looking v promising Mr C.
Theres a set of 04 R1 upside downies complete with yokes and radial calipers on ebay. Currently at £320 i think.
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BC
North Carolina,
USA
Posts: 1,118
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16 Dec 2004 23:25 |
Forks on a Kwak Z1000 also looked very similar to the GSXR ones....
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Tripped
Hawaii,
USA
Posts: 21
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
17 Dec 2004 02:33 |
The problem with Z1000 forks is that the triples taper the fork profile so custom triple clams would be required. That and the fact that z1000s front is NOT fully adjustable. I think you would be better off going with the racetech valves and springs.
When I get home I'm going talk to a buddy of mine at the suzuki dealer and get the true fork/yoke spes for the 03-04 gixxers. It'll probably be next week sometime. But I'll post what ever I get when I get back in to homeport.
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Tripped
Hawaii,
USA
Posts: 21
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
17 Dec 2004 02:34 |
The problem with Z1000 forks is that the triples taper the fork profile so custom triple clams would be required. That and the fact that z1000s front is NOT fully adjustable. I think you would be better off going with the racetech valves and springs.
When I get home I'm going talk to a buddy of mine at the suzuki dealer and get the true fork/yoke spes for the 03-04 gixxers. It'll probably be next week sometime. But I'll post what ever I get when I get back in to homeport.
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Tripped
Hawaii,
USA
Posts: 21
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
17 Dec 2004 02:34 |
The problem with Z1000 forks is that the triples taper the fork profile so custom triple clams would be required. That and the fact that z1000s front is NOT fully adjustable. I think you would be better off going with the racetech valves and springs.
When I get home I'm going talk to a buddy of mine at the suzuki dealer and get the true fork/yoke spes for the 03-04 gixxers. It'll probably be next week sometime. But I'll post what ever I get when I get back in to homeport.
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Bluedogz
Havre de Grace, MD,
USA
Posts: 4,291
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17 Dec 2004 02:47 |
Suddenly I have the strangest feeling of deja vu.....
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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17 Dec 2004 17:41 |
Tony, you got mail...
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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17 Dec 2004 19:54 |
Erick, so have you
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BC
North Carolina,
USA
Posts: 1,118
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17 Dec 2004 21:07 |
[edited]:
Took the plunge.
Checked with an area salvage shop that was recommended to me, and a guy offered me a front end off a 2002 Suzi TL 1000R.
Some research indicated the forks are fully adjustable, and the offer was forks, wheel, axle, rotors, calipers, upper and lower triple trees, bearings, master cylinder, bars and a D207 tire with about 1/2 the tread left for $600 US.
Merry Christmas to me. 
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Tripped
Hawaii,
USA
Posts: 21
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
17 Dec 2004 23:01 |
You would have to check the stem lengths against each other as well as the ID and OD of the bearings. The triple clamp is the question mark there. If the offset is to little or to much it could make the bike turn like a pig, or make it very unstable.
The reason the Gixxers are the first choice is that you only have to change the top bearing on the clamps and the offset on the yoke themselves doesn't cause the bike to go nuts. For us T595 guys we can use our stock wheels/brake rotors, that and the nifty radial brake set up. If you've never ridden with radial brakes you should try it. An '03 gixxer thou will throw you over the front with two fingers if you're not careful.
The TLR tubes may be a tad better than the standard triumph fare. But you have to use the suzuki wheel, which may not allow for your speedo pickup, and possibly custom yokes on the clamp. The work over advantage curve gets alittle steep for me at that point.
Depends on what you are after I guess
I'll try to only post this one once.....sorry gents
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BC
North Carolina,
USA
Posts: 1,118
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17 Dec 2004 23:25 |
[edited]:
Winter project, ahoy...
I'm guessing at worst I'll be able to get a decent hunk of the purchase price back through an e-bay sale; complete front ends have gone for decent amounts. Or maybe I'll hunt around for the rest of a TL1000 to add to the fold... 
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Goldviking
North-Jutland,
Denmark
Posts: 1,364
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Daytona 955i (02)
18 Dec 2004 10:45 |
TL thou forks on member Spondonash's bike
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BC
North Carolina,
USA
Posts: 1,118
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18 Dec 2004 21:39 |
I figure I might need to get triple clamps made to adapt the TL forks, and I may look at doing something with the axle to allow me to use the Triumph wheel.
It will be nice to have all the Suzi parts to work with, though. Now I just need to do some research on rake/ trail figures between the S3 and the TL... 
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Phil Gordon
Kansas,
USA
Posts: 36
Daytona 955i (99-01)
19 Dec 2004 15:21 |
So has anyone concluded whether the 01-02 GSXR1k setup will work also? Is the only difference the radial brakes?? I have the ability to put an 01 front end on for cheap, but Hate to make the plunge if it's not going to work....thanks!
Phil
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
19 Dec 2004 20:05 |
01/02 forks
The 01/02 forks will fit OK, they are the same height as your standard Triumph forks. If you are going to use your original front wheel and rotors with the Suzuki triple clamps and calipers, you will need to fit a 2.5mm spacer between the caliper and the fork leg to keep the rotors in the center of the calipers.
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Tripped
Hawaii,
USA
Posts: 21
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
19 Dec 2004 20:25 |
What about the bearing on the triple clamp? Do you have the ID/OD of the 01/02 triple clamps Steve? I had both an 01 and 02 gixxer, the front suspension was excellent. Plus the gold coating on the 1000 fork would look cool to.
You can pick up the older gixxer front end for a song. They are all over the place.
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
19 Dec 2004 22:08 |
The NTN bearing part number is given further up in this thread, this is the part number Steve gave to me, it is the same for the 01,02,03,04 GSXR1000
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Tripped
Hawaii,
USA
Posts: 21
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
19 Dec 2004 22:19 |
Thanks Wayne,
I'm feeling a serious change to my front end coming on. Gixxer controls are pretty easy to come by to because all the squid-boys have to "bling" their bikes. I may do this, the only hold up before was that I was focusing on the 03-04 1000 parts. They have a tendancy to be expensive. Save me having to drop $400 dollars on a damper to. Should be the same routing on the brake lines as well if I'm not mistaken.
This is going to be fun....
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Phil Gordon
Kansas,
USA
Posts: 36
Daytona 955i (99-01)
20 Dec 2004 04:34 |
Okay..so I've already got a pair of 02 GSXR1000 forks..no tripple clamps, wheel, or brakes....I CAN just use the tripple clamps off of any 01-04 G1K with the bearing and put the spacer in to center my calipers and that's it? THANK YOU ALL! I really REALLY appreciate the feedback on this. Pics to follow
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Phil Gordon
Kansas,
USA
Posts: 36
Daytona 955i (99-01)
21 Dec 2004 05:33 |
[edited]:
disregard 
I'm a bloke.
grashopr@mchsi.com
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Phil Gordon
Kansas,
USA
Posts: 36
Daytona 955i (99-01)
21 Dec 2004 23:12 |
Okay...bearing is remarkably cheaper than I thought it was going to be, about $26 US after having it 2-day shipped in...the bearing itself is $11 for the sealed variety and $8 for the open-variety.
I'm on to trying to figure out controls...are you guys moving your triumph controls over to suzuki clipons, or can you make the Triumph Clipon work? Thanks again
Phil
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
22 Dec 2004 09:08 |
I have the GSXR bars with Triumph controls
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Phil Gordon
Kansas,
USA
Posts: 36
Daytona 955i (99-01)
22 Dec 2004 14:38 |
Thanks Wayne. I hadn't checked fork diameter, but I was pretty sure my Daytona clipons weren't going to mount onto those USD's. If anyone is looking, there are two or three sets of full-front-ends on Ebay right now. I know of at least one that is everything, including clipons and calipers. They aren't going super-cheap, but they are out there....
Phil
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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23 Dec 2004 10:06 |
Could anyone comfirm the thread pitch used for the caliper bolts on the gixxer forks? It looks like 1,25 but I need to make sure before I order the Titanium bolts.... hehehehehe
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Wayne Macdonald
Sydney,
Australia
Posts: 513
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Daytona T595 (97-98)
23 Dec 2004 11:30 |
1.25mm Metric fine.
70mm bolts required.
What are the Titanium bolts costing?
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
Enthusiast
23 Dec 2004 16:22 |
[edited]:
depends where you get them. Cheaper for me to get them from the UK, but might be cheaper for you to get them from the US.
Here are 3 links, you decide...
http://www.yoyodyneti.com/detail.aspx?ID=1429
http://shopping.netsuite....../category.12/.f
http://www.tastynuts.com/.....ANIUM_shop.html
I chose: M10 X 1,25 (pitch) X 70mm
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Capt. Kirk
leftcoast,
USA
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26 Dec 2004 16:45 |
trick clamps
browsing around, found this
http://www.broscomb.co.uk/yokes.html
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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30 Dec 2004 13:48 |
[edited]:
Erick, where you getting them from in the UK? Did you sort anything out re the spacers?
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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22 Mar 2005 15:59 |
Tony,
sorry, no luck for your spacers, you'll need to get them machined locally I'm afraid. The guy who made mine is just too unreliable, you could be waiting months before he gets them done.
I got the Ti bolts of Tastynuts in the UK.
Beware, these are machined into a Ti bar, on order, and the first set of bolts I got from them were badly machined (chipped threads).
they replaced them no problem tho'.
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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22 Mar 2005 18:06 |
Erick, have machined the spacers myself in the end and the spacers for the wheel as well. Got everything now except the bolts, still waiting on tasynuts to send them...
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Erick
MV Agusta in Paris..,
France
Posts: 3,835
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22 Mar 2005 21:42 |
allrighty!
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Triple T
The hole with a mint,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,556
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27 Mar 2005 19:55 |
I'm just waiting for my triple clamps to arrive from the states, then I can start to put the bike back together.
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,379
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30 Mar 2005 22:13 |
OK then what are we going to do about the lock stops??? Anyone any ideas on a reasonably robust answer.
The stops on the Suzuki forks miss the stops on the triumph headstock by a mile.(I have most of it together now)
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Mr.C
southampton,
United Kingdom
Posts: 2,079
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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
30 Mar 2005 22:19 |
Can you drill and tap 2 holes in the relevant places and use cap heads, thats what I've got but mine's a slab yoke so this is easy
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,379
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30 Mar 2005 22:27 |
interesting idea, I will look when I get back from my easter hols.
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
30 Mar 2005 22:38 |
[edited]:
Inline Image
I,ve put this picture on my profile this will help!
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,379
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30 Mar 2005 22:41 |
[edited]:
sorry steve that picture is not shown...it points to a picture on your c drive and can't see t in yor albums either. Do appreciate you trying though.
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
30 Mar 2005 23:00 |
Have a look again on my profile
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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30 Mar 2005 23:08 |
Excellent. eye tank ewe. Should be fairly easy to knock up. I can go on my holiday resting easy.
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Triple T
The hole with a mint,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,556
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10 May 2005 09:59 |
My forks are on now. I've fitted a billet top clamp from E Bay to allow me to fit Renthals. Took a bit of drilling and tapping and a slight mod to the clock bracket but it's on now. The lock stops miss by a country mile, and I see no way to fit anything to make it work.
Just got to get some brake lines made, finish wiring up the 595 engine, fit the new rear shock, chrome frame covers, larger rear sprocket, oil cooler, rad, exhaust, and get it painted. Hopefully have it in one piece before the TT to save me borrowing a mates T595. The paint can wait, the TT can't.
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
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10 May 2005 16:04 |
TT look at the picture in Steves profile, peice of piss to knock up and work (passed scrutinering without a peep)
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Triple T
The hole with a mint,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,556
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10 May 2005 22:09 |
Just had a look, that seems like the idea I'm looking for.
I'll take a picture of the top yoke when it's all done, I'm really chuffed with the way it turned out.
Engine now 90% there....
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Triple T
The hole with a mint,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,556
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16 May 2005 09:36 |
Some new pictures in my album, have a look
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James
Los Angeles,
USA
Posts: 11
Daytona 955i (02)
06 Oct 2005 22:18 |
[edited]: stem bearings
I found a good source for custom stem bearings. Here's the link ..
https://www.allballsracin.....ingBearings.asp
Anyone has the stem nut tool I can borrow or buy cheaply?
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B-Unit
Boston, MA.,
USA
Posts: 59
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)
10 Oct 2005 21:29 |
USD
ON my 03 s3 would on 04 gsxr 1000 frnt end work?
1) Could i use the trees or just the legs?
2) Do i need new top and bottom bearings in the head?
3) Do i use the triumph or suzuki wheel axle?
4) which breaks do i need mine or suzuki?
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,379
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10 Oct 2005 22:01 |
Should be ok. you need to use the trees and the legs, top bearing only as the bottom one is the same althoguh I changed it just to make sure that everything was right, either, if you use the triumph axle you need a couple of bits machined up ( Steve Philips does them) I used the Suzuki axle and just machined up a couple of spacers. Use the Suzuki brakes (radial) and just get 4 10mm spacers made up to suit the extra diameter of the triumph disc.
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john
california,
USA
Posts: 22
Daytona 955i (02)
10 Oct 2005 23:29 |
could you put 05 s3 forks on a daytona, but it would probably cost a lot
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
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Speed Triple (05->)
10 Oct 2005 23:43 |
You could do!!!! You would need to fix the brakes though!!!!
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Marcus Riley
So Cal,
USA
Posts: 18
Daytona 955i (99-01)
11 Oct 2005 04:19 |
[edited]:
Just fyi, I just finished up this swap and did some things a little different than I had read about. I was having a hard time getting the top bearing so I just ended up pressing out the two stems and put the triumph steering stem in the suzuki clamp. They are the same diameter where they press into the lower clamp. This way, I could reuse the original triumph bearings. The top nut for the triumph top clamp fits right down into the hole on the suzuki top clamp, but you have to machine a taper in the zuki clamp so the nut can center the clamp on the stem like the original. I did it with a dremel. works great.
For an axle, I used the suzuki axle turned backwards. I was able to keep the suzuki speedo drive, but had to do a little custom cutting/fabrication. I found some spacers online that let me bolt the brakes up. I haven't made steering stops yet, but I was able to use the stock suzuki steering damper that acts as my steering stops for now. I dropped the forks through the clamps about 10mm and the handling is out of this world. I wasn't sure how much difference it would make but it feels like a new bike. I can't stop smiling everytime I push on the handlebars.
If you have the time, the tools, and a little skill; you can do a lot of the work yourself. But if you want to get it done fast and get back on the back soon, you should talk with someone who sells a kit, like Racecomp. My bike was down for way too long, but I was on a very limited budget and didn't have a choice.
Good luck B-Unit. It seems like a big job but if I can do it, you can.
marcus
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Nitro
Naples,
Italy
Posts: 30
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
20 Oct 2005 18:08 |
like this?
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a friend who lives near naples,make the yokes.
the yokes are or in ergal or in titanium.
the fork come from a 996.
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Kris
Malmo/Copenhagen,
Sweden
Posts: 53
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
13 Nov 2005 16:27 |
What about that axle/spindle ?
Hi guys,
I just bulit myself an endurance race bike from some 955 bits. Now I'm thinking of improving or exchanging my front fork. I've been reading this thread and thinking "OK, I'll change to the GSXR forks". However I have a concern here. When asking a seller of a new 2005 GSXR750 fork about the diameter of the front axle (spindle?), the answer was 30 mm.
When building my D955 race bike I messed around with the wheels an daxles. If I remember correctly the diameter of the front wheel axle for D955 97-01 is 25mm, and the D955 2002 and onwards is 20mm diameter. As I have the old wheels I could accept axles up to 25mm. So how on earth did you guys use GSXR front axle with the D955 front wheel? Or are the GSXR1000 2003-2004 axle a smaller diameter than 30mm??? How about the GSXR600 axle, 30mm or not?
I know if the axle is smaller and wheel larger I can manufacture a bushing, but when axle is larger and wheel is smaller then I'm f***d.
Please help my understanding here.
Kris
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X-Man
Chesterfield/Derbys,
United Kingdom
Posts: 8,379
Premier Member
Enthusiast
13 Nov 2005 17:08 |
[edited]:
Mine are the older wheels running on the Suzuki axle with a couple of spaers, one to replace the speedo drive and the other to take up the slack as per the triumph setup.
Steve Philips makes spacers to use the triumph axle with the suzuki front end (early wheels IIRC)
Newer wheels I'm not sure about. You can also run suzuki wheels and therfore not need to do anything. Wayne mentioned this somehwre in this thread I think.
Wayne Macdonald:
For the 2002 onward it is better to use the Triumph axle and make inserts to fit the Suzuki wheel.
You can even use the Suzuki steering damper |
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Kris
Malmo/Copenhagen,
Sweden
Posts: 53
Speed Triple 955i (99-01)
13 Nov 2005 19:16 |
wheel axle
Hi Tony.
Thanks for your answer. Yes I read the thread. And that's why I wonder. I have no problem making inserts for the wheel, or making spacers. However if the suzuki axle is 30mm and the triumph wheels only have 25mm holes, then nothing will help. Maybe inserts for the fork to take the tinner triumph axle, but that is not really safe at the threaded end.
So my question is: Is it only the 2005 suzuki model that have 30mm diameter axle, and the 2003-2004 forks you have used a thinner axle like 25mm? That is, I can not use the 2005 gsxr forks, only the 2003-2004 forks are good for triumph?
Kris
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Steve Phillips RaceComp
Adelaide,
Australia
Posts: 535
Premier Member
Speed Triple (05->)
13 Nov 2005 20:27 |
[edited]: Spacer kit!
RaceComp make spacer kits for all Daytona and Speed Triple models. The kit is designed to fit your OEM front wheel, rotors, speedo drive and spindle.
Have a look at my profile. I have just up-loaded some more pictures of the spac |
