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stevegnet
Essex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Bonneville T100 (01->)
04 Apr 2008 19:07 |
Have a T100 bonneville 2005 and have noticed on a number of occassions that the screw type petrol cap is a right pig to unscrew ? . Sometimes with both hands really trying to grip the cap just can't un-screw it? Any one else had/have this problem ...if so is there an easy solution?.
thanks in adavance Steve
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
05 Apr 2008 19:23 |
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Steve
This is a very, very common problem with Bonnies. The cap just jams on, especially if you do it up too tight - and that is really easy to do. It's a bit of poor design and I think Triumph really ought to be ashamed of themselves for not sorting it out. Most people recommend that you lube the thread with some rubber grease and then only tighten the cap to the first click and no more. Part of the problem is that the cap is hard to grip and you run a real risk of messing the paintwork around the filler neck while you struggle with the thing.
I had terrible bother with mine. I went back to the dealers the first time it happened with only 115 miles on the odometer and the bike virtually running on vapour. It took two mechanics to get the cap off. When it jammed again on a garage forecourt a few days later I decided to junk it in favour of a Monza cap. This is a lovely piece of kit, though a little pricey, and is available from Jenks Bolts, Jack Lilley, Mototwin, Norman Hyde etc. It removes that "will I be able to get the sodding cap off" tension from riding the bike as well as looking the mutt's nuts.
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stevegnet
Essex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Bonneville T100 (01->)
08 Apr 2008 11:02 |
Thanks for the reply "Suppards", Agree with your comments about poor design. I have since posting searched other sites and answers vary from using palm of hand to push down and twist off, "thump" it first, lubricate seal, and it will loosen with mileage. Well I tried palm of hand........didn't work for me. Tried thumping it.........didn't work for me. Didn't like the sound of greasing seal as I reckon this will attract dust. So as sad as it sounds I have taken the "usage" theory and sat there with mug of tea in one hand and repeatedly undone and done up cap. Have done this about 50 times and at about 100 miles per tank load I reckon the cap has now got the usage of a bike that has got 9000miles on clock with what was already on there. Fingers crossed it seems ok so far. However the very next time it locks up I will fork out for Monza cap as you suggested and many others on other sites have.
Thanks again....Steve.
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
08 Apr 2008 17:30 |
[edited]:
You're very welcome Steve. How long have you had the Bonnie? Have you removed the ugly and useless Secondary Air Injection System yet?!
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stevegnet
Essex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Bonneville T100 (01->)
09 Apr 2008 11:59 |
Have only had Bonnie since this new years eve. Prior to that hadn't ridden since 1974.
As for the SAIS, what are the benefits of its removal? All I know is it is something to do with exhaust emissions?....I'm not very technically minded when it comes to engines.
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Lord Blackadder
Sitges/Bilbao,
Spain
Posts: 1,288
Premier Member
Thruxton 900 (04->)
09 Apr 2008 17:25 |
Removing the air injection gubbins will stop the exhaust downtubes from going blue and - if you decide to fit aftermarket proper exhausts (so that the Bonnie sounds like a Bonnie and not like a sewing machine) it'll avoid too many backfires when you close the throttle.
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
09 Apr 2008 17:44 |
I recommend you do it Steve - it makes the bike so much nicer to ride. You can buy a kit with the necessary plugs etc from Jenks Bolts or Norman Hyde for a few quid.
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stevegnet
Essex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Bonneville T100 (01->)
10 Apr 2008 09:01 |
I had after market pipes when I first got the bike and yes it sounded a hell of a lot better than now with the original pipes back on. The reason I swaped them back was because insurance co. told me that "NOT FOR ROAD USE" meant not legal so therefore bike is not road legal and would not pay out if involved in accident?. Now I know a lot of people use these types of pipes every day and get away with it, but I didn't fancy taking the gamble of getting sued £xxx's if involved in accident. I know life is full of what if's.
Although having said all that I am slowly knocking the baffles through in the current pipes that are clearly marked as OK!.
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
12 Apr 2008 05:28 |
Got TOR zorsts on mine and b*gger worrying about the insurance company. You've modified your previously legal pipes so that they are now illegal. That puts you in just the same position doesn't it? Sewing machine or pleasing vertical twin grunt. I know which I go for!!
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stevegnet
Essex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Bonneville T100 (01->)
12 Apr 2008 09:13 |
Yes take your point, just that theyr'e not as in your face with the legal notice. However back to the main reason for this post the petrol cap, have tried the cap every day this week and fingers crossed it seems to be ok now?. Will get monza cap at first sign of any more problems though.
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
12 Apr 2008 12:16 |
Not that I lack faith but........place your order now! 
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stevegnet
Essex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Bonneville T100 (01->)
13 Apr 2008 12:21 |
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I don't Beliiiiiiiiiiiiieve it!!!............ Monza cap on order first thing tomorrow.
Was about to go to fill tank up but thought just in case I'll pull over and make sure cap will come off still before I get to petrol station forecourt. Although in all fairness I hadn't had 3 shredded wheat this morning. The mind boggles!!!.
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Barney
South West,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,512
Premier Member
Sprint ST (05->)
13 Apr 2008 14:22 |
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http://www.mecatwin.com/e.....e/reservoir.htm
The Monza cap is the most beautifull classic cap you can imagine. Mecatwin supplies the original Monza cap since 1989. We produce now a kit (cap + adaptator) to fit this really beautifull part on your Triumph. (also available for 3 cylinders and Harley Davidson motorcycles)
Supplied with gasket and accessories
Ref : 04-000500
Monza aluminium filler cap
Monza cap + adaptator + accessories
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
13 Apr 2008 19:07 |
[edited]:
Well at least you checked before you got to the forecourt. I pulled in on a busy summer Saturday afternoon and entertained a queue of car drivers behind me with my efforts to remove a petrol cap. I could imagine speech bubbles over their cars saying "Look at that w*nker!". Oh the embarrassment...
You'll love the Monza cap. It really does look so nice. Order from Jenks as you'll have the option of alloy or chrome. I got chrome cos I'm lazy.
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stevegnet
Essex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 10
Bonneville T100 (01->)
16 Apr 2008 12:02 |
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SORTED!!!!!. 
Chrome Monza cap ordered from mototwin Sunday afternoon......arrived today Wednesday, £82.23 all in, including post and VAT. Took all of 3 minutes to fit. Looks the dogs nuts.
Don't know why someone on here didn't tell me about this last week
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
16 Apr 2008 19:15 |
Good on yer m8!
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Mr Greebo (aka Julian Heathcock)
West Sussex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,808
Premier Member
Adventurer (96-98)
18 Apr 2008 12:40 |
I quite fancy one for the Adventurer, the original cap opens and shuts OK but the chrome is a bit tatty on it. I'm assuming if it fits a Thunderbird or Legend it will fit the Adventurer. Anyone got any ideas?
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~Bluelabel~
The Shades, Ongar,
United Kingdom
Posts: 31,217
Premier Member
Thunderbird Sport (98-00)
18 Apr 2008 13:08 |
I know the Bonneville locking cap fits the TBS, thats all I really know about petrol cap fittings.... sorry
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Barney
South West,
United Kingdom
Posts: 3,512
Premier Member
Sprint ST (05->)
20 Apr 2008 17:27 |
I just bought one from MotoTwin and as Blue says the Bonnie one fits the TBS
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Mr Greebo (aka Julian Heathcock)
West Sussex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,808
Premier Member
Adventurer (96-98)
22 Apr 2008 13:47 |
I shall have to have a close look at a TBS next time I'm near one and see how the caps compare. They do look rather tasty .....
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~Bluelabel~
The Shades, Ongar,
United Kingdom
Posts: 31,217
Premier Member
Thunderbird Sport (98-00)
22 Apr 2008 19:47 |
There are two types one just a screw fit and the other a lockable one... about £30 IIRC
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
27 Apr 2008 06:20 |
Jules
If you want a lockable fuel cap I have a Triumph lockable cap in brand new condition. It lasted one tankful on the T100 before getting switched for a Monza! Email me and we can sort something out.
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Mr Greebo (aka Julian Heathcock)
West Sussex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,808
Premier Member
Adventurer (96-98)
28 Apr 2008 12:42 |
Suppards, will do, I'll do the email thing at home this evening. Thanks for that.
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
29 Apr 2008 20:35 |
Course Jules, it does help if I set up my mailbox first! Try again: suppards@T595net.
Sorry about that
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Mr Greebo (aka Julian Heathcock)
West Sussex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,808
Premier Member
Adventurer (96-98)
30 Apr 2008 11:28 |
No apologies needed, every night this week I've gone home with the intention of emailing you, and every night I've made tea, slumped in front of the TV and then mainlined recorded Dexters. Wiping all bike thoughts from what passes for my brain.
I shall do so this lunchtime.
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Mr Greebo (aka Julian Heathcock)
West Sussex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,808
Premier Member
Adventurer (96-98)
01 May 2008 09:38 |
Suppards - did that email get through? Your link seemed to give an error, but when I changed it to @t595.net it sent OK.
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Suppards
Cheapside,
United Kingdom
Posts: 724
Premier Member
Bonneville T100 (01->)
01 May 2008 18:23 |
Julian
Got it and replied. Sorry about the delay.
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Mr Greebo (aka Julian Heathcock)
West Sussex,
United Kingdom
Posts: 1,808
Premier Member
Adventurer (96-98)
12 May 2008 12:40 |
Supp, YHM and a very grateful Mr Greebo.
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